I never threatened that I would take legal action and explicitly told you I would not, so not sure why you'd think I'd get you a letter from a lawyer.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @crisishorror @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon
the most likely law that would apply was cited hours ago, I really cant care to scroll that far up, your welcome to do so if you wish.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon
Yes we covered that earlier, and agreed, the slander/libel is civil. the intentional mass messaging intended to disable my account, that could go either way. when i stated it as illegal I was not trying to make a distinction between criminal or civil, nor was it a threat, just as I said at the time, irresponsible.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @alex @cowanon
Still going to ignore the second sentance where I said it was illegal but I had no intention of suing or doing anything? Just going to pretend that part of what I said wasnt there huh? so now everytime someone says something is illegal, even when the very next sentence is, but I wont do anything about it, your going to start claiming they made a legal threat? Yea ok buddy.
I did however imply that if he had expanded the spamming to the entire server then I would have taken legal action if i had to, and I have no problem with that. Yes its a very serious threat, and one I only made after he began running scripts to try to cripple my account, and even then I made it clear only on the condition if he expanded that attack beyond me personally... that "threat" still stands, I have no objection to taking legal action should he take it to that level, but otherwise I would not, and i stated as much.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @cowanon
Yes it would be civil not criminal, agreed.
Again no one is suing anyone.. but making false claims and sending thousands of messages with the intent to cause harm is, as I said, risky business for any administrator. I really didnt care too mucha bout the libel/slander itself but once he intentionally started running scripts in an attempt to cripple my account, that was crossing a line and the point where he put the server in jeopardy
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @alex @cowanon
How so? A judge literally gets to decide the result of a case.. if a judge decides you loose, you loose, its not appeal to authority to say you lost.
@nanko check out the ff hash tag on my timeline, I list several, mostly STEM related, from time to time.
@JTR21 slander is generally considered a crime. Accusing me of publicly and making an official public announcement that I was cowanon, when I was not would be slander/libel and thus illegal.
What put the server more so in jeopardy was the script he publicly announced he was running to spam the QOTO server for several hours. Clear malicious intent, publicly admited to it, little doubt there would be cause for a legal trouble there should someone bother to act on it IMO.
I've seen web hosts take down servers for less.
At no point was litigation threatened. In fact when I stated what he was doing was likely illegal I explicitly stated it wasnt enough of a nuisance for me to act on it legally. so you're good.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @alex @cowanon
But you can bring charges against a person who directs a computer to do a thing... again I have no intention of bringing any charges against you and I said that when I first stated the issue. But there is little doubt that accusing me of being cowanon would count as libel/slander, and that flooding a persons personal account with messages in an attempt to make it so the person cant use it would also violate US law.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon
Sorry but he is right, no evidence has been presented that could show a large wide spread conspiracy that would be sufficient to sway the election.
You realize republican judges that **trump appointed** even turned down his cases...
You think a computer just up and acted on its own? You are getting stupider by the minute. You explicitly directed a computer to spam me endlessly for hours on end, and you accused me of being cowanon and even went so far as to change his profile to accuse me of being him before any of this started.. Obviously a computer didnt just spontaneously do these things on their own.
Jesus christ are you having a stroke with this stupidity.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon
I didn't do a count, so that's fair, 5,000 instead of 100,000 is entirely possible. Doesn't really change much.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @underwater @alex @cowanon
And just to be clear, **yes** I was claiming that should he begin to attack and harass the whole server I will take legal action. **that** was implied, and I stick by that. But I also made it clear taht at this juncture I see no reason to.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @cowanon
@StoneLi Hate to break it to you buddy but its literally what the supreme court said and has been reiterated by many professionals.
For context here is the whole message I replied with. Funny how the full message with context is the exact opposite of what you just suggested. Notice the second sentance right where you bothered to cut it off tha says "so far it hasn't been enough of a nuisance to act as you have only directed your mental break down at me."
there is more than enough documented evidence for both a slander and an harassment case against the server. so far it hasn't been enough of a nuisance to act as you have only directed your mental break down at me.
Regardless it is telling that you'd put the future of your entire server in jeopardy over your obsession over little ol' me... like i said, your only hurting yourself and looking like an unstable fool.
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @cowanon
first off he sent ont he order of 100,000 messages today, so if i did want to sue or anything else I'd be entirely within my right and couldnt give a flying fuck otherwise.
But as always i see your still leaving out the context.. how about you show what I was responding to?
@grips @realcaseyrollins @modfaggotry @p @underwater @cowanon
@StoneLi No as I already said the Supreme court has no power to hear his case. they literally couldnt have heard his case even if he wanted to.
@StoneLi The court documents. They dropped every one of the legal cases I know of. Which one do they have a pending court plea with?
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