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@admitsWrongIfProven @tio @roko

As you point out the issue isnt about defederation at all, its about the gossip, manipulation, and lies that results in uninformed defederation.

You pointed out one example already, where a group of people with the clear intent to spread rumors without any evidence were able to get QOTO removed from the official list, but it goes much deeper than that. That same misinformation has gotten quite a few servers defamed for things that never happened.

The reason, among other things, is that when an instance hears a rumor they defederate and stic those rumors in the "Reasons" column with no transparency or evidence, others pick up on this, rinse repeat. They have used some pretty nasty tactics to make this more prolific too. For example they have hordes of single user instances that defederate then maintain lists that list instances based on how many instances defederate them. So they are able to say "look this instance is in the top 10 most defederated" but leave out the fact that they are counting single user instances and in fact they arent really very defederated at all.

What is needed less than the collaboration between instances the UFoI provides is the **transparency** on why defederation takes place with evidence and a chance for the other side to speak their piece. This way defederation can be informed.

@tio
Actually I know there are some people who's thinking about the long term consequences of defederation and is trying to find a solution to this problem. I haven't looked much into it but they're working on this project ufoi.org/ which aims to form a community of instances that agree to federate with each other, its not perfect but its much better than the current way of doing things which is not very transparent. FYI, this is not like a closed off group, they promote openness and decentralization, you'll get the gist once you take a look at what they're proposing. I first heard about this project from @admitsWrongIfProven and @freemo, they seem to be very open minded and transparent about everything which I really appreciate.

@politicsusa46

I doubt that would help, you can hide a lot in your tax returns if you dont itemize.

@mokana@bigisland.social

Yea thats how it works, your federated timeline is the combination of all public posts of all things followed from your server.

@EubieDrew @feditips @Mastodon @mastodonmigration

@mokana@bigisland.social

Yea it matters sinceit effects who can see you in their federated feeds

@EubieDrew @feditips @Mastodon @mastodonmigration

@mandlebro

Consciousness IMO is just an emergent phenomenon.. a trick the brain plays on itself. The evolutionary purpose is simply to make us want to avoid death at all cost.

@antares @fourmajor

@drewharwell This issue really has me split.. on the one hand its just public data.. on the other it is clearly doxxing, which by its very nature is the exposure of public data... I'm not sure if it makes me rethink the idea of doxxing as an evil or what...

@ceoln

Basicallyt he issue is if yo scroll down to a point and leave it there. New messages come in and fill up the column and slowly eat up memory.. its not a bug though, its just the memory it takes to display the messages..

It is easily resolved by taking the scroll bar and moving it back tot he top (most recent post).. then after a few seconds when the next post comes in all the excess messages that were loaded disapear and the memory is freed.

@barefootstache

@waltercool fascism is defined as effectively authoritative.. communism **is** fascism.

Definition from amrriam webster: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

@mandlebro

There is no conciousness from a neuroscientist perspective... AI can in some cases process and integrate more data than a human yet this would not qualify it as concious.

@antares @fourmajor

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@acjay We already have account verification using keyoxide and keybase. See my profile as an example.

@peterdrake

No one will know if you put them in a list.. a list is a good way to organize it yea. I do admit it would be a huge hassle though.

@QOTO

Please reboost this #poll.

In your opinion (does not have to be informed), what is the ideal #Mastodon #Instance size for #content #creators? (For content consumers, see poll in previous toot.)

#MastodonMigration #Mastodonadmin @feditips @Mastodon @mastodonmigration @freemo

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@slider7420 We are a fork of mastodon, our version and the mastodon version have no relebance to eachother.

You can already follow hashtags, we implemented that feature years before mainstream mastodon had it.. you add hashtags you want to follow several ways, either create a column devote to it or follow it in you raccount preferences.

@mguhlin

Thanks for the shout out. You'd be welcome here. We seem to match all your criteria, and we have a good number of teachers on the instance.

@Roofhare @redegelde @freemo@cloud.qoto.org

@redegelde

That seemed like a strange statement.. yes of course its not, yes they are.. what about my response maid it sound like a contest to you?

@mguhlin @Roofhare

@fourmajor I disagree to an extent. This is a "how many hairs make a beard" question. There is some liminal space, but your profile picture clearly has one and @freemo 's clearly lack one. There is a realm of existence on the edge of consciousness, but it is unstable. I propose that while there may be debate about what hit the historic marker of the first artificial consciousness, that it will be perfectly evident if and when such a thing comes into being.

@peterdrake

Ok so you can set it column-wide for home column.. but no way to use it on a per-user basis.

@QOTO

@peterdrake @QOTO there is a way to do this... i just dont remember where.. im poking around now to see if I find it, no luck, but I know i saw a way somewhere.

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