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@thor Last time I tried to scroll their block list I sprained my scrolling finger. Had to ice it for a week... Godspeed!

@supernovae@universeodon.com Best of luck to you in your future ventures.

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@pixel The idea that they are moderating proactively is nonsense.. They are moderating to the whims of their users, which attracts more users with whims. Its a cycle that ultimately results in servers like art, that has moderated to the point of abuse just to appease their users rather than based on anything that actually needs moderating.

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sad truth: as long as instances like .art keep moderating as they do ("proactively", guilt-by-association, etc.), Mastodon and the fediverse as a whole will stagnate.

I get that people want to keep it "manageable", but you also want more people to adopt the concept and ideology so we are not dependent on centralized services.

but new users will leave right away if they have to deal with federation issues if they can't interact with friends.

@IAmErik I was outraged that there was outrage over outrage when in fact there is a lack of outrage, but now that you are outraged I am outraged that you are outraged when there should be a lack of outrage!

@freemo
"1) I havent seen the barbie move"

@bibliolater I have a few books with exemplars in them. But other than that no. I do however ask questions when i need help to a few experts I know.

@RhinosWorryMe @PaulSchleifer

Comparing it to the french resistance, something you stood a REALLY good chance of being murdered should you join it, is hardly comparable. One might expect if your not very likely to be murdered you stand a much better chance of siding with change.. and if you think YOU should be killing or using violence right now then you are already the problem.

@admitsWrongIfProven The fact that ben is Jewish, and generally race-politics types dont consider Jews white... so there is that.

Pretty sure white is pretty fluid for most of these people. When you start disagreeing with them you are white regardless of the reality.

@admitsWrongIfProven I think Ben Shipiro complained about it, which i guess is the same as "all middle age white men" or something.

Three facts:

1) I havent seen the barbie move

2) My feed is filled with people claiming white middle age men are outraged by the movie

3) I havent seen a single white middle aged man in my feed mention the movie even once.

I mean even as a trans person, I don't feel like it's particularly important to do a blanket ban on an entire, heterogenous organization just because one arm does a transphobia. I've been kinda bristling lately about how reactive the fediverse is sometimes, to the point of harassing others (I'm sure defederation isn't the only thing the #BBC will experience today).

At the same time: it's important, as part of the fediverse experiment, to detach ourselves from wanting to make that line go "up and to the right".

I feel like the fediverse has the ability to allow for both "let's grow a lot!" people, as well as people who prefer more limited, cozy, proactively safe communities.

I think talking about it in terms of what "the fediverse" should do is the wrong way to go about it: I think we need tools/instances/software to enable both. I think this is possible, but our tooling just plain ain't there yet.

@shuttersparks Same here, I love it, have little natural ability, but I am doing good relative to where I started, thats all that matters.

@rmerriam There does not appear to be a group by that name on chirp. If there was it would show herE:

chirp.social/@DiscussCPlusPlus

@freemo sounds a lot like the culture i encountered when trying to interact with the Pleroma dev team, minus the blocking. people with all the maturity of a 12 year old.

@thor Yea that group is basically immature on the opposite end of the spectrum, same nonsense, different narrative.

There certainly is no lack of immaturity around these parts.

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