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So for the symbolism that individuals can stand and be problematic (like holding up police vans, or cycling in the middle or busy main road)

I don't claim the politics that much that the physical presence or mental perseverance - it does matter.

Some comments I got from another page:

- One of the most iconic image of the century! That man standing in front of a Military Tank! What bravery, what defiance! Truly inspirational

He was stopping the tanks leaving the square.
Ironic much?

You know what? This shows more the restraint of the army than the heroism of the individual.

His name was Wang Weilin (王维林). Never forget it

historical momentous scene of 20th century that inspired millions to resist
more comments here:
https://nitter.snopyta.org/carlzha/status/1134582926325104641

@rastinza
- Was massively pushed as product to support war initially and directly,
- Women's liberation / Suffragettes / Feminist hijacking propaganda (do your bit / support the men type stuff)
- Fashion
- Movies
- Higher taxes (= higher duty)
- Same setup in each country / template for war

Similar to alcohol etc.. very lucrative and system supported.

@gamliel
yes those things are in the balance I see.

@Pat
Muted for 7 days. Sorry Pat,
Good for me to practice.

@gamliel
Yeah I get exactly that on Mastodon but funnily I am not comparing Mastodon with FB... but Mastodon with email... so I guess yeah that follows that people ignore or doing mostly FB and simply move on... either way... I remember before peopel were like 'no way let American company see all my photos, kids, chat, business etc" and now look... they were not wrong about spy's that come through phone (not to your door any more otherwise people would politely slam door on face like a cold-caller or hawker' but somehow they didn't see the sign or computers and the candy lost that 'stranger-danger' type stuff when people at least show their face at your door! :)

So yeah people somehow switched and ignored the "danger at your door" (camera in your kitchen) and also started to even like it (and then also go to protests ....done on FB of course!)

I'm happy with any type of English... and audio conversation is enough (no video needed).

It really is a race to figure these things out as people sign up for stuff really easy,., so I hope to talk even broken english is ok...
But yeah maybe your examples are good in text also....

@gamliel
So like a ladder perhaps take one step at a time down or practise different which I guess you are so this is in theory
Much like changing of emails incrementing emails to somewhere else / XMPP / voice call instead etc... something **planning** it to make it less is needed *in part*- so at least eventually you are planning some way of doing otherwise than only FB... and practising using something else can lead to something. (I'd personally like to know all the ways FB serves you and give myself a score for alternatives but at the end ALL the evil will always offer more so asking people to do less or non-FB is *always* going to be painful or a 'downgrade' when it was really 'turbo evil' in the first place and has all-you-can-eat / always infinite / always on remote storage type stuff (yes being 'on' itself was once a privilege also and a micro-normal that has incrementally changed and thus water supply for villages being sucked dry from data centres nearby!) - so for this I'll assume FB had many uses for you and not hating it - just puzzling it nicely... (love to have conversation now or anytime about the micro-details)..
But back to the ladder down this is what I'd ask for or plan or increment or just something. I wouldn't wait for people to join here or do anything - that's maybe one step too far to involve or convince others (yes do sit someone else like we did like emails or make an account for them, but don't expect all to use it... but for example I did do a sit down remotely with screen share and kept the audio http://freeschool.0id.org/mastodon/
The 'network' effect (if I have it right) makes people feel tied together or makes them feel they need it (they don't care about the name we went thru many and it can be a fashion perhaps only longer with money backing it otherwise it could have been XMPP steroid up a bit if it wasn't for being 'too open'/un-proprietary... so just doing less of that can explore if it's possible rather than say it's not. Many use FB but call on phone and just call it a day with the app and notifications that took over them more than consciously wanting it for everything (bit like infinite scroll is taking over tiktok vids)

I guess you're not waiting either by being on Fediverse and already know and even done these thigns before so this is just another one ;) I think you'll figure it out too
So I suggest keeping people's contact numbers and list of other ways to contact them and using those more *and then Facebook* as fall back... (yeah kep it don't disable it) and even practising to communicate with more quality if possible (regular 10min fly-by coffee) using FB as the starting protocol rather than hours of 'what do they mean' texting and drawing things out over a longer and awkward time. Get it done, dusted, polished!

The whole network effect of looping each other in ( "do you have facebook?") is a big problem to also solve so this is one of the aims. I do suggest less contacts too as part of naturally more organic stuff or even to get you more active - but maybe the algorithms are just too tempting to be used and abused (and many might not see it as abuse at all)

Again anything specific to you or use cases please specify - much more fun than this long (sorry)

u$ing and being u$ed less is just the key and naturally feels bad like going too fast in a car ( leaking data) and then slowing down to 60... just have to accept it was an unsustainable / wreckless speed and in the hands of others... and well maybe like email (or their friends) now we have to do it in other ways or to undo what we known know since making 100 gmail accounts and now working the other ways towards having 0 gmail accounts! It's still progress even though numbers going up or down seem to suggest otherwise.

Chat anytime welcome here
(just send me a DM - it's an empty chatroom or choose one to your liking by change URL)
https://meet.jit.si/chataboutit

That writing looks funny if you read fast... look like I misspelled something
Might see "complete" instead of "compete" (which it is correct as it is and what I meant so it was written correct

So might look like:
"money is what is making us complete"....... ! lol and kinda the truth also since we realy on anonymous bankers in the middle and government mis-managing it all....