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Decision-making by being paid to do something instead of thinking together is the slow death of decision-making...

@SuperDicq 1ST WebRTC alternatives?

Audio / Video conferencing / human-contact stuff like WebRTC seems really needed...so I wonder if anyone can list the workarounds or other ways when someone has a running a total happy perfect old browsers but can't WebRTC?
:/
Jitsi maybe has a desktop version but yeah an application might be the answer (outside of bowser)...

suggestions welcome for solutions otherwise

https://webrtc.org/support/overview
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC

See if your browser doesn't WebRTC...
https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/DetectRTC/

2ND TOO ADVANCED IS ALSO BAIT

Too advanced = 2nd class web-citizens :) But that's technology kinda naturally and kinda not also - naturally we upgrade but less naturally some industries deliberately upgrade JUST to keep people upgrading for the newest carrot/cherry/car which is eventually phased out when it's tired of existing profit maximisation.

3RD FOR WEBSITE / USER BELOW
@SuperDicq

Some older browsers I tested on your site can't see any of your comments (viewed on page:
https://minidisc.tokyo/@SuperDicq) - no comments but can see and show top title parts before the horizontal divide

gives syntax error
ERROR CODE: SOMETHING_HAPPENED
Details (expand arrow)
SyntaxError: invalid property id

(then empty space where the comments would go usually or Firefox show)

Seems your site is scripting or something 'advanced' :)

BUT could be my browser config so regardless try run some old browser on your side as people using old browsers might just be quitting off thinking your site is broken (when it's their browser or your site being too advanced) ...

when I looked at my own reply in my own instance interface ( going to the post link, it loads the comments natively no probs and can click any comment as normal but on your site it would seem you site is doing something 'advanced' :)

I could be wrong so test it yourself with some of those browsers you mentioned.

Usually I just close the browser and happy I'm excluded somewhat but was a good test since we were talking about browsers and compatibility !

(I assumed it's probably my end) and in a way I feel it saves me time browsing another profiles half-randomly :) (but I understand your instance didn't mean to exclude anyone. maybe but needs de-upgrading! )

Writing this across time and space so might seem like it's written patchy - I guess that's normal :) Thanks

@SuperDicq

Could not see links to IceCat, Librewolf, Pale Moon, Vivaldi etc so here's some links ^_^

How do we expect people to change browser quickly without download download download?!
..... ^_^

Here's a link to all browsers ^_^

+ HELPFUL comments that show balances between browsers

https://alternativeto.net/software/firefox/

The comments there help show the user about privacy / security differences or match the requirements for those that care before installing

#Software #OpenSource #foss #free #infosec #privacy
(choose carefully Neo! a lot of bells and whistles out there and paid devs getting paid 'for the way' which is mixed bless as some suggested )...

https://alternativeto.net/software/firefox/

@bonifartius

If a link doesn't work for you can use the end part of the failed link and paste it to a yewtu.be url (in this case video rIbaCJ254lc)

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rIbaCJ254lc

yewtu.be strips the interface and advertising of youtube pages to make them more minimal and non-advertising.

yewtu.be also allows changing of servers incase this link doesn't work.

Try the interface here:
https://yewtu.be/feed/popular

So after a few plays of this very fun video (going to reply that all day!) ... I'm wondering now at the end of each play, what is love ?

Ah my trusty list is here to help answer that I hope...
http://freeschool.0id.org/my-love-words-list/

And list of anti-love words here
(because knowing what isn't love is perhaps equally important)
http://freeschool.0id.org/my-anti-love-words-list/

Much Love and Respect to all Sovereign beings !
#Putin and many need to learn make their business love
Love To #Russia #Ukraine

Going to need lots of love for all the mini #war (s) always happening in many ways behind our backs and now this #UkraineRussianWar at least more in front of our faces.

<3 Love Not War - For Sure!

Once you build a machine you might want to find a way to stop it

because

1 - it's inevitable to be turned against you like a computer's speed is and paid programmers are developing the opposite to you or using the #opensource / #Freesoftware software pieces to build their own wall...
2 - BUT ALSO to move into more-human interaction as goal as more-guaranteed human investment and usage of time
- and even phase out heavy industrial-needing computers... not green at all - maybe the #raspberrypi etc could work

HINT: The answer is more 'faster' cleverer people not continual-upgrade attachments or continually recycling projects and hardware as we already have ' communication as a protocol quite well in computing and need o only need to add a bit more

MAINLY we just need to actually start having meetings and get chatting as well as developing! To enjoy a more full eco-system of people for when the war comes to us...
I guess Jitsi / Matrix right now are leaders... any other ones just let me know...

@ainmosni
Half-Ironically 'buy bitcoin' because Ukraine legalized it and actually sorting out those banks messing everything they connect to in the long run will do it for peace... (which includes paying for both sides or war and supplying payment to those that want to arm up). Indeed it pay to war and is a war-enabler itself...

....so ok I feel better about this suggestion often it's too short-sighted to do anything long-term or not understood who or what is behind practically everything...

At least read up about it's current proof of concept (usage confirmed working and Ukraine legalized it recently)... so using it for next crisis if not now... as there is some 'system' or way all this war is being funded (again and again).

Also something very much like this because typical ways often fail... including these typical examples

- Aid via a Company and Banks works out as as another business / shell game / cover up / high % cut by the time it gets to other side

- " charity not change " (Chumbawumba quote)
Meaning money doesn't change things much and offenders or their patterns and predatory behaviour continue - the results of financial suppliers / take-advantage hunters / trouble-makers / system design / deliberate entrapment is continual never-ending as long as they exist to fund anything they can suck dry or hold as collateral )

My feelings are with those in war but it's more than this onion skin above..
#Putin -> #Russia <- #Ukraine #UkraineRussianWar #Everywhere #Bank -> #Finance(s) -> #War <- Taxes

@ainmosni

So I'll admit I might be confused (so that's disclaimer done) but happy to work it out...

I could be right in saying the word money is used interchangeably here either by me reading it that way, by reader, and / or yourself... so that's just 1 thing I'm aware of mostly for myself and yourself while going on to the next main point

The main point for me and value added I hope:

Nobody means to say use bitcoin only. Bitcoin AND bank money can work together and needs that for any transition so that's ok.

If agreed on not disagreeable then...

Using something elsewhere, means the power or traffic is somewhat taken away from banks (by not having transaction profits there or profiting in terms of regulating people actions...
#Putin #Russia #Ukraine #UkraineRussianWar #Everywhere #War
so i.e. people are using Bank's monopoly less and therefore dividing the flow which doesn't have to pretend it's a whole solution but the fact it's doing what it's doing away from banks is in itself a bit of proof of the concept splitting monopoly elsewhere (however much big or small no need think about it that way).

But if you do want to thinking about in terms of buying items online or expecting something to replace everything right away... then you might be pleasantly surprised ! Similar to how paypal or something wouldn't be for groceries at the start well it's happening already. So food not so much (yet) and a quick example would be (e.g Tesco's online delivery serive for example accepting paypal online) but anyway people have crazily (even banks) started accepting bitcoin so without speaking on their behalf and using their actions they seem to confirm it's credibility and act FAST (it's a bit shocking to be honest for an old-looking system to act). So something is in that and they allow either payment to them and/or others without me trying to do any more advertising them or bitcoin to shove any cake in their already fat cake holes.

EXAMPLE FACTS SUPPORT THIS even though I'm not a big fan of bitcoin here I just like note taking and thinking about things that are 'not the same old crisis makers and swindlers beding us over again'!
(Disclaimer: Numbers or facts could be or +/- since these 2021/2022 facts)

Last year OCT 2021 - Record-breaking transactions, 4 days in a row.
About 30billion per day circulating between users (That's 4 x 30billion sent around world within ~8 days)
This is not counting the normal transaction days i.e the other days of the year outside that week.

El Salvador legalizes bitcoin (2021)
2.1 million #Salvadorans ACTIVELY used @chivowallet (not just downloads) in first 3 weeks.
- More users than any bank account users in #El Salvador.
- 30% of the whole country used bitcoin.
- ALL THE ABOVE happened in less than 3 weeks of bitcoin being in operation.

Bitcoin is accepted by a keymaker in Sri Lanka!
(just a joke fact! But saw the video on it in passing so this is for fun and who knows - but for anyone to know what it is on ground level is more amazing than people not knowing what money is... for all their life - ask your mum and see what she says ! Sorry tongue in cheek here and also real-world test to prove while working for money, talking about how important it is and consuming it people can know literally 0 / nothing about it and I think financial systems hope for that. In an economics degree it's even not mentioned more than a few lines how money is made - Peter Joseph paraphrased so now wonder politician and everyone else don't know, it's the world best kept assumption / ignorance / whatver people think it is and where it comes from... poof)

Ukraine is the latest country to legalize it.

Bitcoin has open public accounting system - any time public lookup
And stats live which say how much is in circulation

SOURCE: Simply bitcoin 2021 episode:
Official Inflation Narrative TOTAL COLLAPSE 3
https://bitcointv.com/w/c3f2ce2c-43ef-4596-8d65-a602668b201e

OVERALL SUMMARY RESPONSE

You said people think money itself is the goal...

- Seems partially it is when it's the power to create that Banks can do and abuse / dilute / devalue / inflate ...

- bitcoin is seen much more transparently and has a philosophy with it (what' the banks philosophy?)

- what's going on is a search for trust and transparency (or that's one part, again not all or nothing use both). Called it avoiding fat-cat-cheating which has had taxpayers had to rescue banks (bailout) from a 2008 crash and ongoing when the banks looked at us, the public, and said 'we have no money'
(paraphrased... I think!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008

- #Bitcoin or the power to create / self-manage is the very point (although it may not be in some traditional sense for goods but anyway as I write this it is literally becoming so with uptake even by banks which make your comments a bit old already - not that old is bad but shows what you think about good, food, services is already happening and was even between users and now more infrastructural)

- Power admittedly 'could be' seen as taking away those that have if you consider and agree that people doing something away from an existing monopolising type system or copy of a similar currency is not longer being used as much and somewhere else. At least power (control of the currency, transactions cost in your kitty, tracking movements, insider trading) are less.

Lastly. Just reminder you said:

"Bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies are a great example of how people think that money itself is the goal, and not the power, goods, and services that money represents. Money is worthless if it can't get you food, or can't be used to pay rent. Similarly, creating money doesn't just take power away from those who have it. Bitcoin does not take the means of production away from those who control it.

And quick pic just as a bonus.
Boost if you like it.

Picture reads: Technology, Philosophy, Economics, Finance, Memes (Bitcoin)
I'd cut the 'Memes' from the spider diagram but actually it's really helped and looking at some #bitcoin posts the picture or parallels help explain 'why not banks' as well as MAYBE reading more about bitcoin and what it can do really well and what's worth going for in this or things for the future.

Hope you enjoy. Appreciate it might take you a while to read.

@v0lta GREAT MUSIC - A NICE KEEPER!

+ LINK FOR YOUTUBE FILTER !
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5srEVMgCVU0

+ NO ADVERTS
+ DOWNLOAD OPTION
+ SAVE SUBTITLES
+ FAST LOAD COMMENTS ETC

Minimises YouTube interface
... copy / paste this somewhere
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=

(you were a apologising for youtube.com link so here hope you can try this and enjoy the audio again)

Boost if you like music!
Boost if you like minimal youtube interface!)