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@namark
Yes it is promise... of what they don't have.
This is the cheating part mainly we can focus on.
Actually that first line might be enough to think about.

Deeper...
If someone would offer this kind of system personally to you or family, you might think about it as a scam.
Now, today as a more legitimate way of money 'making' it's perhaps not much more than that simply because it's not making, it's taking (future deposits / future loans *created* again by banks).

This power of creation is the corruption and leads to many sub-games.

It's just a legalised version of what a man actually did also in real life and was jailed for it back in 1920s promising 50% back to people and worked for year (would have been more if people didn't 'work it out' after 1 year LOL).
So imagine these high rollers, banks and corporations... Is all a fair game?

Mr. Ponzi was called a con artist and swindler, operating a financial bank of his own which was ok and not a problem for a while, also with promises, where he and many he employed he got rich (mini-banks operating further and further) and made those others rich very quickly but then also got quickly jailed / hit doww when they realised what he was doing...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ponzi\

After setting up a company... "Even though Ponzi's company was bringing in fantastic sums of money each day, the simplest financial analysis would have shown that the operation was running at a large loss. As long as money kept flowing in, existing investors could be paid with the new money. This was the only method Ponzi had to continue providing returns to existing investors, as he made no effort to generate legitimate profits."

It's called a Ponzi scheme after his promises which we proved not to work unless short-sighted people kept giving him / loaning them their money thinking it's possible to 'make' more money back - it was really just taking other people's money and a loss-making flow which in the end people didn't get back because guess what..... :).

The world perhaps realised a lot about this system since then and decided to make a more legalised version (it may have existed before but in last 50 years much more (that's like your dad / granddad's era of change so not long ago) so it's been boosting loans to make people 'rich' from the making the system overall 'poor' and getting poorer/raped thinking "this is normal isn't it mum?"
Noo... world is poor until people can work together without this mentality of 'more'.

So when life is built on top of debt it might seem ok and normal (even great for a while) but after a while that honeymoon relationship comes to a quick SHARP end or war (civil / political etc) especially when people don't have any land left to sell while mechanisms devalue money slowly over time.

Parents 1 or 2 generations back would never had considered a loan and would take a sharp intake of breath if anyone would suggest that top them "How about taking a loan?" "No way I'm not stupid."
Debt wasn't accepted at all as they knew it didn't work long term (unless it's some other kind of modern game) and the normalised versions are perhaps more force or debt-only ways being born into it and having less choice- student loans etc...

If you have more promises than anything then you still don't have much but promises. And once you collapse things and do the math you see the Banks have not much collateral itself and just virtual fractions as their own 'reserve'.
Their main hope is borrowing from other banks just to pay you and I believe they are now in a vicious circle of only paying the debt by taking moer debt out to each other per year!
This is only to continue the ILLUSION that it has money it promises people when it clearly doesn't. Moving chairs after not enough of from the start clearly doesn't work... or even just printing it from almost nowhere while you ask others to promise to pay you % on top for that 'service' also as you are somewhere else...

In short just to wrap it a bit (with neutral tone)

Promises of promises of promises = bankruptcy / banks do not have money
...already happened in the financial crisis of 2008

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008

and still happening in many ways probably as governments and bank don't want to lose their power over people and do more other ways to cover up the bad game underneath it all.

#Putin #Russia #Ukraine #UkraineRussianWar #Everywhere #War
All doing it. Oppression through Banks. War through as many means as possible (not even just 1 way but connected to everything possible which is why this mentality needs to go to get rid of it... from everywhere!)

If this is not convincing then I question how far I would need to show the basic cheating / playing around with virtual numbers and %'s by those that say they have control over it... but anyway that's my casual attempt to give some indications of it if not total light that they are fucking around with us like subject under them willing to believe everything. Se even if I'm a bit wrong or some % out of accuracy this would still be massive disaster for all life as time + %'s passing makes any small damage, debt MASSIVE.

PEOPLE ARE ALSO NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT FINANCE AND BUSINESS BUT 'USING' (BEING ABUSED) BY IT...
The illusion that things are working on the surface is also born inside from the ignorance of the people even bank employees.

Few questions I'd ask
- Is it ok if you don't know how it doesn't work and if you don't know the horrible truth? (before and during using a material)
- Is it ok if your parents didn't understand it and so you assumed from them?
- Do people track the changes of banking over time or just think it's the same?
- If it seems to keep you alive at the cost of the bankrupting the future is that ok for you personally...
- Or as a culture think it's healthy to expect future people to making future people pay more or fund today based on future speculation?

(Probably not, but most go along with it right? Ever had conversation with a parent... did it satisfy you they understand? Did it end up in argument? Is it pleasurable talking about money with people?... all telling signs or confusion.)

Anyway back to topic - increasingly people have less choice as thinkings like putting rents up put people gradually into high-price corners that slowly or sharply roll higher so nobody can be exactly blamed for turning the temperature up and if anyone complain it's just a case of getting new tenants if the existing don't like new rent price. New generation who haven't felt the burn of new prices are more likely to see it as ok or even cheaper than something else expensive!

OVERALL...
It's also for you to have a look these question these systemic patterns... (called 'systems' for short) or re-read a bit why banks would say (all over the world) they have no money and why banks and whole government are going down / have gone down taking everybody with them when normally you would think it's the best 'no lose business system' out there and to be a bank is like God or Godly / unstoppable.. apart from that one big weakness of course O_<

I mean what could beat the bank? It's perhaps just a reflection on the people's ignorance since whatever right? Nobody cares if it's a simple delay to the original sins of the bank not having money or printing it too freely.
Parents simply 'get on with it' (don't study their paperwork or system) and indirectly confirm and say "it's ok" to kids by using it and hooking them on it too. "Let's get you a bank account also yeah?" (a slipper slope and allows bank even more power with your cash sitting there in their account. banks money is always theirs by the way and if government need they can conduct seizure of it which is happened in Greece, and happening in Turkey now where even gold and other things people ARE NOT storing in banks and are even willing to store it under the bed like in old times as all of it is in danger as history repeats itself)

Allowing more loans and more promises we soon realise what wasn't enough to start with and actually making things worse (it's connecting your debt and my debt to all our lives and all people going down/suffering more by %'s).

Historically people taking 'their' money has resulted in crash even if it's not all their money - this is another proof of concept it doesn't work - that this money doesn't exist and it's not right to work from that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_run

FINAL SUMMARY

Numerical poverty and real life degradation as a result selling of life cheaply (non-payable) means is simply prostituting it like pimps for empty promises which has been temporarily boosted slowly since maybe 1950's and increasingly no since less options exist to sell everything or 're-mortgage' it (life itself).
In less than 100years all this so still a temporary thing and just another 'business' than comes into phase and phases out when it's time is done (when people understand what is happening)... as that is business, open up shop and move on when the game is up (moving into pollution business, politics, automobiles, refinancing countries et)... all coming to a bit of a realisation for a lot of people, so over time things change BUT now we are realising another BIG 'ah' and how legal things got cheated again and took from us the people (again) like villagers that knew know better the business model/gangster pyramid we're in and how they tried to legitimise it by calling it business and making rules forcing people to take their money (again what is in your hands is not yours and can be taken any time from hand or bank account AND has been/is now!).
All bad game collapse back to original position (or worse).

If anyone else would do it it would do a lot of this it would called:
fraud, extortion, theft, arbitrage [many financial terms]

Making unhealthy business of people's real life using whatever 'business' tools it has has it's time of justice (moral AND mathematical justice).

We could have conversation about it I think via audio without pushing too hard (but ask any time yourself / make a time). I'll let it rest for bit.

If this text so far hasn't helped maybe an audio conversation would be best.
(Direct Message any time your willing via Jitsi Meet safe instant chat)

For example: https://meet.jit.si/chataboutit
Any time after you message me / in future

It might help to understand your understanding too since that is my best 3 or 4 main points above and not much else I've heard to make me think it's not just another legal scam (I mean 'business' sorry) and bad deal by those in charge from people before them in charge all in a bad loop.

More technically than just saying scam it's:

"the business of extraction" for mostly financial or power gains
while having / being given exclusive power to do so but the tier above back up to government eventually from all business collecting on governments and banks behalf

Thanks for reading and accepting what you can of that.
Picture just as a bonus.

Games list that reflects reality in War games. Online and in real life...

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Age of Empires
Seven Kingdoms
Civilisation
Warlords

Soldier of Fortune
Black Ops
Call of Duty / Advanced Warfare / Modern Warfare
Sniper Team 2
Mobile Forces

Infinite Wars (Halo)
Command & Conquer
Battleship
Tanks (World of)
Warcraft (World of)

StarCraft
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces / Jedi Outcast

Missile Command
Worms
Doom
Unreal Tournament
Quake / OpenArena

Grand Theft Life (My version of GTAuto)
Bandits - Phoenix Rising

Euro Truck Simulator
Virtua Cop 2
Time Crisis

Monopoly - Here and Now
Tycoon Series
Theme Hospital
Operation Mania
MineCraft

Street Fighter 2 / Alpha
Mortal Kombat
Killer Instinct
Streets of Rage
Bad Dudes

Plants vs Zombies
Angry Birds

Games that reflects reality in:
#politics #economics #war #finance #business #fascism #online #games etc.

Online and in real life...

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@skells Cost in terms of finance doesn't matter if taxpayer pays the bill *always*

(Can't think of any exception or trick that isn't the same thing)

Effectively "who cares how much" and just 'a bit' of thinking where to take it from or how to label it (if anything) so I don't think cost like that means there is any limit as already shown by national debt or existing cost for things.

And maybe 'expensive' doesn't mean money, sure again the people or the structure take the hit even if chance means just replaceable with new people and the next team gets a go (same mentality) under similar structure (as long as it's the same promises to do different etc). Same-same but different actors and chairs to move around and keep people busy, hopeful, over-writing previous scandals and events.

I assume even those two main points of regime change might not be what you mean but still a big part of it for sure...

and happy if you want to expand on it in whichever way you want...

How do you tell parents, relatives and anyone else that that people us stole our future both financially and physically?

How do you explain to our parents of now they are still assisting help others to steal the future* from us?

*future = long list of control points / designed-out things / non-options / fake pretend promises / non-optional things / over-tight constraints

Yeah... all that means just about one thing...

You stole my future... You cheated me out of my simpler living...

You knew what you were doing, over-complicating things, making ridiculous amounts of rules behind our back, paygates, barriers, bureaucracy and now even you don't understand it but now you must follow too...

...to dig the hole bigger and to cash in harder kill the Amazon and wildlife quicker ....

The future is taken by these actions and life is limited... %'s are imposed and taken by banks on bogus money it doesn't even have since it's just %'s on %'s every minute... enough to bring life to it's knees and make decision-making based only on the man-made scarcity and greed of deliberately bad maths towards never-ending filling of pockets making a pyramid of people trained to take % each from the next and chain them into subservience rather than pay things forward and allow people to make proper choices...
Nothing else in life other than searching for money, %'s and resources that don't exist or are hidden and stored somewhere away from others. Just take and lock away.

For the children and even humanity the future should be a "Pay It Forward" style thing... or at least "pay it in full" before you make the next generation and whole world pay for your plans.

Servitude and debt for other people's bad spending or deliberate misspending is not a way to live. Any actions are justified under this style of aggression and looking down on your own species.

For people to be told they need to rescue banks from debt is a huge insult to already a big DISSERVICE AND DISRESPECT they provide and a forever scandal and life robbery until that is GONE and phased out completely. PONZI schemes never work and just allow people to make it worse.

You stole my future people. What do you expect people to do from that tight space? Be happy?

My future / our life... morally difficult even in 'comparable' luxury... I'd rather have a lot more forest and the bio-diversity back than half the crap we have to deal with and live under passive-aggressively....

@niclas @bonifartius Good point. I could be wrong but it feels back in the day (not so long ago, granddad and grandma wars days) doing these kinds of thorough talk or consideration were part of looking at things in a 'proper manner' perhaps more objectively even to allow someone to say their piece / peace. A scientific like approach of humility or politeness being taught how to argue in a soft semi-regimental manner even to be fair to the opposite side!

And staying calm, not rush - "make time for it next week over some tennis! Your place or mine for tea after ?"

So to switch side in understanding is really useful for immersing one's self into by representing each side (learning that side as you go along and really believing it or discovering subject or person)... with the help of others doing the same too... a WIN WIN for everyone ...if they can funnel emotions into logic etc not to bottleneck.

Would be good if people could practice or teach that!

I have to catch myself occasionally but I think I have already the stance everyone is right or just human or acting in some way accordingly to something else so it's really just that or different ways to same thing. Above a minimum understanding it can work and for the below par the rest are not climbers at all probably and not willing for the friction in understanding things or longer pieces of puzzles and prefer to stay at the bottom completely. (Doesn't help everything is so layered or complicated or said 100 times or multi-meaning words and double-speak !)

A world where it makes space by default and respects how people are as individuals is my dram! So people or their principles can find their place, have stuff suggested but others, or probably to help them create the diversity a bit after really thinking it through (because a lot now deliberately is non-existence by design and needs creating again!)

Oh well, seems like a nice idea and even nice period of time but also probably not perfect or too distant in how people just ping pong over tea but not real change in their life. Head over to my profile for some of that! And happy to hear differences if it can progress a bit!

This was the original text just as reminder:
"academics were tasked to argue for/against any position on any subject, then to switch side and continue."

^----- probably called different names for this kind of process or but "devil's advocate" is probably a variation to help see things from a viewpoint without necessarily already believing in it or too stuck on one side or the other before finding out all the details or nuances.

More welcome about techniques on that or those kinds of people.Good point. I could be wrong but it feels back in the day (not so long ago, granddad and grandma wars days) doing these kinds of thorough talk or consideration were part of looking at things in a 'proper manner' perhaps more objectively even to allow someone to say their piece / peace. A scientific like approach of humility or politeness being taught how to argue in a soft semi-regimental manner even to be fair to the opposite side!

And staying calm, not rush - "make time for it next week over some tennis! Your place or mine for tea after ?"

So to switch side is really useful for immersing and understanding one's self and others and the topic by representing each side (learning that side as you go along and really believing it or discovering subject or person) and then changing side... with the help of others doing the same too... a WIN WIN for everyone (...if they can funnel emotions into logic etc not to bottleneck...).

Would be good if people could practice or teach that!
I've been in some group chat that do just that - Happy to lead one, it's quite simple and is like a round table where each goes around talking for few mins and also answering theme questions by talk organiser / moderator.

I have to catch myself occasionally feeling things but I think I have already the stance everyone is right or just human or acting in some way accordingly to something else so it's really just that or different ways to same thing. Above a minimum understanding it can work and for the below par the rest are not climbers at all probably and not willing for the friction in understanding things or longer pieces of puzzles and prefer to stay at the bottom completely. (Doesn't help everything is so layered or complicated or said 100 times or multi-meaning words and double-speak !)

A world where it makes space by default and respects how people are as individuals is my dram! So people or their principles can find their place, have stuff suggested but others, or probably to help them create the diversity a bit after really thinking it through (because a lot now deliberately is non-existence by design and needs creating again!)

Oh well, seems like a nice idea and even nice period of time but also probably not perfect or too distant in how people just ping pong over tea but not real change in their life. Head over to my profile for some of that! And happy to hear differences if it can progress a bit!

This was the original text just as reminder:
"academics were tasked to argue for/against any position on any subject, then to switch side and continue."

^----- probably called different names for this kind of process or but "devil's advocate" is probably a variation to help see things from a viewpoint without necessarily already believing in it or too stuck on one side or the other before finding out all the details or nuances.

More welcome about techniques on that or those kinds of people.

@samuraikid

I see these kind of balances as the checkmate or bad decision making when it's doing things based on energy and structure from other people that your country politically is / was at war with or you hate or are against politically!!!... should be a big signal not to do business and REDUCE THAT SHIT!

But then even at times like these that country and those countries still kinda still partner up with the enemy lol... shake hands, photo, nice day.

Decision-making so gone wrong...
!

So I would suggest these things below even though the above seems reasonable and simple enough for anyone to work it out if they didn't already get the message "we're not friends A$$HOL£... and I'ma get you later!! " Ah that's nice ^_^
People play so well.

So if people didn't get the feeling and message from those they didn't like previously then now I suggest...

1- something towards reducing leverage of other people or other lands and resources from past old enemy's because it turns out to be a future liability and bad for decision making as a 'cheap' benefit today (i.e. cutting off from RussiaXYZ_EU becomes a non option when you leaned hard on it so much)

AND

2- to moderate population / not expand yoru own empire if it becomes your resource hole for food etc and just a time delay for real for progress (i.e. feeding more than solving self-sustaining local ways or using locals more than imports because of financial reason)

Overall

- leveraging others of committing to deal or just not getting along starts to self-leverage when you're connected so strongly based on your own survival of your enemy!

- External resources is overrated as it's a future problems... but needs more courage and brains I guess

Anyway we will be in the original mess once it cascades back like a regressing waterfall, going back to potatoes when there is war or when finally others cut from us and we can't get it from other lands!)

Doesn't sound bad if it solves original sins of using bad ways and bad people. This isn't reference to this war, but in everything !!

Ego is healthy... and manageable in also a healthy way to get the best of both people
(not expecting perfect ego)

Ego is not a threat if one just has charged intentions, is looking for balance (like if nobody helps they people's ego of course are not balanced) or willingness to make mistakes and go through the forest of emotional development!... (there is not other way perhaps than use a bit of ego and go for it knowing nothing is perfect but our expectation that none of it is straight or makes 100% always)

Ego has multiple meaning so this is maybe something to clear up and last thing in this message!

Ego is / can be 3 things ...

1. Feeling of pride in your superiority to others

(Can be inflated or just reality that you know more about it than I do! Well done if so!)

2. Your consciousness of your own identity

(Again not bad - you know who you are or who you are developing and are maybe more in the now than polite and never say things - I need to get over it if really I have some problem or bring my own experience to you nicely!)

3. (psychoanalysis) the conscious mind

(Whatever interpretation you give the above!)

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Bring me your Ego and let's play nice and reform the world...! ( everyone else is just to damn polite and get steamrollered / railroaded ! )

You could save me writing more about this because I'm very worried but can listen to calculated reason... because exactly for this computer calculator doing things we can't see I see this as a problem and actually moving away from humanity itself.

Looking at this equation below (which I'll improve) basically it summarizes us doing nice things yeah but in the end developing a tech empire or components like bricks in walls which add up. Like all inventions it's turned by bastards into bastard things...

THAT IS THE MAIN THING THAT NEEDS ADJUSTING ELSE SAME HAPPENS WITH ANYTHING YOU ALLOW OTHERS TO US (ESPECIALLY THOSE WE KNOW ARE NOT HUMANITARIAN AT ALL / MENTALITY TWISTED)

Imagine it's not just a computer you are racing but a HUMAN GOVERNMENT GROUP + COMPUTERS everywhere...

The current war might not be good to mix in but for a second imagine all that is computerised and tracking just the same as it is / could even more for civilians... adding progress to that is suicide or trapped prison of remote computers.

So when I say racing I mean literally for competing against or making decisions we already losing in algorithms, markets, airline search connected all the other search. recording, monitoring, no privacy, remote control invisible stuff (we can't see or it's somewhere else)...

If that's true we are developing their empire which we will GET LOCKED OUT OF or switched off.

And our concrete strategy from our side? Apart from decentralised stuff which is great, I'm not sure - so progressing anything else is really dodgy for me in the end... it's hard for me to imagine how we win... UNLESS we all focus at the same time on the HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY, right from parents, average society who has less off an idea or even developers too far in too pull themselves out (ALL NEED HELP TO GET OUT OF BAD CYCLES)

AND preventing mentalities that think people in gov are going to take care of them ! (well only if another resource suffers right, humans resource or natural resource)

Accepting banks, tracking, advertising, is one thing
But the mentality of making everyone PAY MORE and feel like they have to always charge when they have enough - this sickness and default perspective needs undoing BIG TIME- else people with tools will just use them like hammers and not even care.

How to be more human seriously... seems such a small point to continuing computer stuff but someone tell me how it's not a lost cause that way or how you achieve people being satisfied and secure with themselves or others- almost no use being people together if they are going to look at each other like they small and stink.

I would like to go on but feels like COMPUTERS GOT OUT OF CONTROL ..... because of humans not using it properly and those providing them with it (i.e. high % of free software wrapped in proprietary + license/patents etc)

AND THAT ENABLES HUMAN BASTARDS *WITH* I.T. (even more than we know already)

#Mastodon #Suggestion:
A small counter for page hits?

Like user accounts per day / week but for page hits or general hits,
Example :
https://qoto.org/@users/107913747396380111
(but for pages)

Also wondering if that would be bad in anyway but if could be PRIVATE (only for user/not public).... (what do you think?)

WHY?

- To justify posting here a bit more measurably or gauge response (is there a way I can see how many viewed my post?_

- ego a bit but if nobody looks at my / your posts then we can consider putting energy here and somewhere else. a different strategy of growing minds...

So yeah mostly for some stats (even be PRIVATE stats like I had in my wordpress - ONLY FOR ACCOUNT USER and only for growing of minds!....

like I wonder how many clicked my simplified banking concepts post recently... (if people could understand banks we could reform everything and everyone!)

Scary :)

BANKING CONCEPTS
CHEATING PEOPLE / LIFE...

Transcript Text / Subtitles:

" It is my opinion that you do not understand the concept of banking.

Bank Santander, Deutsche Bank, Royal Bank of Scotland, they're all broke.

Banks are broke because we have a system called fractional reserve banking.

Which means that banks can loan money that they don't actually have.

And yet Governments and Central Banks do it all the time.

It's theft from the taxpayer! "

- Godfrey Bloom MEP UKIP

Basically banks are stealing from us and we need to act on it, slowly but surely...

So hard not to watch and save - even for great education as videos... and more 'safer' ways of watching Google/Youtube videos is possible via Invidious
( https://invidious.io/ ) ... but still I have to be careful not to over-watch and decide what my real plan is! (which takes a while and needs time to reshape and reform it!)

So I do appreciate there is a better way of watching but still the consumption and addiction maybe is the same ( sitting and clicking from one to another video ) even for learning I'm aware it's too much even for my unending appetite! I know a lot of it already or the source of trouble (which is what I want to do live/living it/lovingly do and not watch/stay static/watch screen all the time/more computers).

The interface makes it so easy to never-ending jump around (in YouTube / Invidious.io) ... so I'm trying to move on as much as possible with finding other things to do for tangible change... (it's not easy let me know if you find something)

MY MAIN POINT:
IT'S DIFFICULT NOT TO CLICK AND NOT TO SAVE MORE AND MORE...
BOOST IF YOU AGREE!

SUB-POINTS:
- not the 'all-you-can-eat' American servers
- not the 'all-you-can-eat' content I have seen or heard already
- not using from BigTech or even smallTech using mass hardware and energy...
- not encouraging others / already enough... about 1 day of video uploaded and added to YoutTube every hour :/ - that's 576hrs of vid per day... 24days of content in 1day :/

YES I appreciate something is there for at least some damage limitation,
but as a habit no (I want change and my wants to be served in life).

If you agree boost me for that (even if you want to continue watching it's your choice to be conscious while clicking!)...

From the energy and infrastructure point of view it's all a lot of war (even without current situation as a theme - it's always been #energy, #heat, #hardware manufacturing, smoke, replacing, hardware failure, #social paralysis, money in #BigTech for everyday people who maybe don't like U$A based stuff but still invite it. Just to many things that make it too easy and easy to say " ENOUGH! ")

Credits to #Invidious.... an open source alternative front-end to YouTube.

https://invidious.io/
https://yewtu.be/feed/popular
@invidious

I've probably encouraged you to look now by putting links but also boost me if you couldn't resist the click to show that it's difficult when you get a link right?

BOOST IF YOU AGREE
ABOUT YOUR OWN LIFE AND TRYING NOT TO GET SUCKED INTO JUST WATCHING!!

The mentality of people needs adjusting and developing more than anything else...