@freemo have you a link? I never imagined that this film can became a problem.

@mzan A link to what exactly? The film wasnt a problem, thats the point of the post. Now that "drag queen story hour" is a big issue and everyone is complaining refering to this movie is meant to contrast the absurdity, as it happened in the movie and no one gave a shit.

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@freemo so are you speaking about this? dragstoryhour.org/

Are they reading normal children books? In case I agree. Are they reading "manipulated" books, with a transgender agenda? I don't agree.

@mzan they generally read perfectly normal childrens books when ive seen it.

@freemo

Some Like It Hot (1959)

Also, I think there were a couple of silent-era films that featured men in drag, but I don't remember the names.

@mzan

>"...books, with a transgender agenda? I don't agree."

What is a "transgender agenda". Do you mean books about the 24th Amendment, or the Preamble to the Constitution, or the introduction to the Declaration of Independence?

@Pat

A masterpiece is "The Crying Game" by Neil Jordan.

> What is a "transgender agenda".
> Do you mean books about the 24th Amendment, or the Preamble to the Constitution, or the introduction to the Declaration of Independence?

No, I mean things like "if you become a woman, you can become a professional female athlete" or "there are no differences in the mind of a man respect the mind of a woman" and other similar crazy things.

@freemo

@mzan

Women have a right to pursue a career in sports if they wish.

I don't understand your second quote, it doesn't make grammatical sense to me.

@freemo

@Pat

I think there is legitimate concern here about trans-women in women sports. That said I dont see the solution as "base entry on birth-sex".. the solution is much more subtle IMO and needs to be gender neutral, I dont know what that solution is. Maybe just have divisions and dont base it on gender at all.

@mzan

@freemo @Pat @mzan Yep, not base on gender at all makes sense.
People want to compete? Well if muscle (which trains differently) is an issue, make weight classes. If not, why differentiate? -> this does not mean "don't differentiate", it means differentiate on things actually relevant.

@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo @Pat

> People want to compete?

Anyone can practice sport, also transgenders. Anyone can compete, also transgenders.

But a professional athlete is paid also because they are "role-models". For inspiring man and woman. And a man winning against women because he/she is transgender has no "commercial" value IMHO. It is like paying for seeing America's Cup won by a speedboat against sailing ships. Like a man winning because I know he is doped. Ok, the majority of athletes are doped, but at least I can pretend to not know. But a transgenders is for sure "doped" if she competes against other women, because she is not "natural".

@mzan @freemo @Pat Oh, as soon as you introduce commercial value here, i'm out. Looking at the aspect of commercializing sports, i see no value for mankind delivered.

@Pat @mzan @freemo I briefly considered replying to the second quote, but i must admit i don't understand it either.
Cheating with drugs in sports is so common, changing gender would not even register. So the first sentence seems meaningless. The second sentence is... crazy, as advertised. What should that part tell us?

@Pat

> "...books, with a transgender agenda? I don't agree."

I read that in USA someone is considering "Sleeping Beauty" as a case of rape, because the prince kissed the "beauty" without her consent, while she was sleeping. So, with these premises, and without having a clear situation of the campaign (that now I believe/assume is in good faith), I were thinking to a Drag Queen telling about "The Ugly Duckling" in a distort way...

At this point I worry about an Only-fans teacher, telling "Cinderella", explaining to the girls how to become a gold digger, and to the boys about the joy of foot-fetishism 🙂

It is not the exact content of the books, because the majority of tales and children books contain also strange/worrying elements, but it is the way the narrator tells them. As in life.

@freemo

@mzan

Don't put those words under my name. I did not say those words, you did.

We're done.
@freemo

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