@Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird it’s not anti science but it can be anti racist which why it makes you uncomfortable 😆😆😆
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird CRT, afaict, is bullshit, and racism, masquerading as anti-racism.
It definitely doesn't belong in schools.
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird Can't define itself, defines white supremacy as society as a whole. Yeah, I'm all for anti-racism, which is why this racist nonsense has no place in schools: https://www.bera.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Critical-Race-Theory-CRT-.pdf
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird yes that’s your assessment but it’s not supported by this passage 😆😆😆 maybe more teaching not less is the answer , and feeling uncomfortable is not an excuse for academic censorship which by the way is not applied to schools but universities 😆😆😆
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird this is a bizarre and completely mischaracterized representation which also seems to parrot well known far-right talking points of these fake culture wars...
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird As soon as you make a point I’ll respond. Calling these “bizarre”, saying I’m “uncomfortable”, etc., these aren’t points
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird A point goes like this: “you say X, that’s a mischaracterization because CRT says Y”
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird lol, the discomfort is evident, the point is simple : you're misunderstanding the referenced text, mischaracterizing an obvious university course as taught in school, and therefore preaching censorship unduly while parroting far right wing talking points and agreeing with Nazis... hope that clarifies it , for me it's very cringe ...😆 not wanting to understand this doesnt make you sound very persuassive lol like i said, the solution is more education not less...
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird 🥱
Ya got nothing, as I thought.
@taoeffect @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird 😆 😆 😆 it's funny when young adults get emotional like this & it makes me laugh , like i've been laughing at your nazi friend @Hyolobrika@berserker.town hope it's okay if joke men like these are punch lines to me 😆 😆 😆
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird and btw, to answer one of your original questions, it's now obvious to me you're a clown of a racist lol
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird Loses argument, doesn't know what to do
"YoUr RaCiSt!" 🤡
like talking to an NPC
@taoeffect If you are lucky some day you'll think back on going around saying such things and wonder how you got so hoodwinked. I mean if you are young. Perhaps.
@futurebird Unlikely, if, like has been demonstrated here, people who cannot form coherent thoughts, and resort to ad hominem when confronted with objections and rational discussion, are the ones who are trying to persuade me.
On the other hand, what you just said is very well applied to you and this Joseph fellow.
In the meantime, I'll continue listening with an open mind to the Internet and people who can talk rationally
@futurebird “Be anti-racist!”
“Ok, this CRT thing is racist, it should be banned.”
“No not like that! 😱”
@taoeffect @futurebird just because you say stuff doesn’t magically make it true you know 😆😆 you’ve not responded to any of the rational and very clear + simple arguments , resorting instead to childishness , which is what joke man would do … sorry but you’ve been quite unconvincing , and everyone can see it … meanwhile you’re defending your fat Nazi friend @Hyolobrika@berserker.town but maybe you two need each others emotional support for racist trolling ? 😆😆
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird I’m not here to win or loose anything … I genuinely tried to explain something to you , thinking you were asking in good faith , but now I realize from your own words , you defend racism … that’s why I call you a racist - nothing else
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird Where did you try to explain anything? I do not see it. All I see are insults, name calling, and unsupported claims.
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird the amount of projection in general childishness in your replies is why you’re a joke man to me 😅👍🏻
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird and by the way I wonder if your colleagues know that their name appears next to your defense of racist bloggers 😆😆😆
@taoeffect @Hyolobrika@berserker.town @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird in case you missed it here is the summary : https://qoto.org/@tonic/109859958389522680
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird Like I said, unsupported claims, followed by insults and name calling. I asked you to explain how I was mischaracterizing it, and you never did.
@taoeffect @tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @futurebird
Okay, so your point is twofold: 1. You say it is incorrect to assume that racism is behind the objective fact the wealth is concentrated in the hands of white ppl.
2. And that trying to link the undeniable fact wealth is in the hands of white ppl with racism is indoctrination.
The question is, WHAT ELSE but racism can explain the present inequality?
There is no other explanation.
It's self evident.
It's axiomatic.
@Lily_and_Frog @taoeffect @tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @futurebird No, its not axiomatic and self-evident, only dogma is.
Nonetheless, it's well-documented that many policies and mechanisms in the US society do disproportionately target people of color, and especially black people.
Also if you wanted to know what CRT *actually* is it's one web search away. So if you don't that's just unwillingness. It's a specific approach to sociological research, not an indoctrination.
@tonic @Hyolobrika @krisnelson @Lily_and_Frog @futurebird Schools, and universities, should most definitely discriminate between indoctrination & education. Indoctrinating students into thinking their entire society is racist and out to get them is what can lead to things like the recent uptick in mass shootings.
The job of educators is supposed to be education.
(This technical glitch of 50 min delays between your replies & notifications on my end, is really annoying)