The vaccination question is simple:

Is the government allowed to dictate medical intervention?

@skells
I think your question is beyond the scope of vaccinations alone but in actuality (not theory), yes, governments can and do mandate medical intervention.

Whether or not they should is also beyond the scope of vaccinations. It requires us to make assumptions/value judgments about whether people should be allowed to harm themselves (suicide) or others (Mary Mallon, aka "Typhoid Mary").

@b6hydra there are already signs that the vaccines might be selecting for more virulent and transmissible strains of the virus.

value judgements on whether people should be allowed to harm themselves should be based on science, not political expediency.

particularly when the topic of conversation is violation of human rights

my body, my choice, no?

@skells Usually I'd agree with 'my body, my choice'. But this is a virus which affects other people too... Not sure if that's still 100% a 'my body, my choice' case.

Just something to ponder about philosophically. I know my government is not going to enforce vaccination, but a lot of people in my country are willing to vaccinate so it's thankfully not a terribly huge point of discussion here.

@b6hydra

@trinsec

The thing is, other people can get the virus, wear masks, wear full hazmat suits if they like. So the whole argument of bodily autonomy not being valid goes out the window

@skells @b6hydra

@freemo Yeah, that is if you look at the individual perspective. Then you're absolutely right there.

But what if it's a group effort thing? A 'for the greater good' case?

@skells @b6hydra