Trinsec @Qoto @trinsec@social.cleverlibre.org

@longshort yo

@lydiaconwell Oh, you don't know of that story?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Harambe

This might explain it better than I can. The internet was all about this incident for a while.

@lydiaconwell It was a deadly stupid joke, sorry. Something about that Harambe gorilla.

@lydiaconwell But I don't want to die yet...

@freemo On the other hand, those kind of reactions eliminates any discussion of some sort. I'm not a person in power, so when I say 'for the greater good', maybe it's a nice idea to discuss the why and why not, and not the 'it justifies all bad stuff' conversation killer.

You do make a point, of course. But it sure kills the discussion to just chop it off like that. ;)

@galena @b6hydra @skells

@galena I'm always amazed that when the term 'for the greater good' is used, people somehow manage to twist it towards something that might eventually lead to a Godwin.

What if it's not used like 'enforcing' it, but philosophically like I intended?

@freemo @b6hydra @skells

@freemo Aha, that's a clearer explanation, thanks. In this case I'd be inclined to agree with you by the mere fact that the vaccins don't give full herd immunity. It does help, however, so it should still be highly encouraged. The infection % does get lower and the hospitals do get burdened less. So... in a way... it's not totally unreasonable to somewhat limit 'my body, my choice' there, I think. But as @b6hydra mentioned, having other rules in effect still (distancing, masks) can help with trying to keep said freedom.

@skells @b6hydra

@icedquinn Ah, you meant it that way. I wasn't associating that phrase with the abortions at all in this case, I see it as a seperate entity. So that's where the confusion comes from.

@b6hydra @skells

@lydiaconwell Aha. Yeah, that's something I avoid. I don't like surprises. :D

@icedquinn Politicized phrase...? Whut? I think you're going on about something different here and I'm not following along.

@b6hydra @skells

@freemo Errr....

What? ;)

@skells @b6hydra

@icedquinn
I'm not seeing the relevance of an abortion with a pandemic, sorry.

@b6hydra @skells

@freemo Yeah, that is if you look at the individual perspective. Then you're absolutely right there.

But what if it's a group effort thing? A 'for the greater good' case?

@skells @b6hydra

@skells Usually I'd agree with 'my body, my choice'. But this is a virus which affects other people too... Not sure if that's still 100% a 'my body, my choice' case.

Just something to ponder about philosophically. I know my government is not going to enforce vaccination, but a lot of people in my country are willing to vaccinate so it's thankfully not a terribly huge point of discussion here.

@b6hydra

@Acer Judging by the quality of the food, most people don't either...

;)

@freemo 22 sept is special for LotR though. ;)

@freemo Wonder if it'll be on 22 Sept.

@skells In my country: Not really.

@sexybenfranklin I use my work laptop to game with...

@mc Of what?