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@LouisIngenthron

OK, so

> murder of a child > rape of a child

and

> murder of a child > murder of an adult

I get that. But then, why do we behave as if

> rape of a child > murder of an adult

and as if

> rape of an adult > murder of an adult

?

Abominable as rape is, isn't murder always worse?

@freemo

Yeah, there's the issue of the cut-off.

[Wikipedia](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophil):

> _“Pedophilia […] is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to **prepubescent children**. Although **girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12**, psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for **prepubescence to age 13**.”_

Then there's the [age of consent](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_c):

> _“Age of consent laws vary widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, though **most jurisdictions set the age of consent in the range 14 to 18** (with the exceptions of Argentina and Niger which set the age of consent for 13, Mexico which sets the age of consent between 12 and 15, and 14 Muslim states and the Vatican City that set the consent by marriage only).”_

It's very tricky, because obviously a psychologically healthy adult can be aroused by someone under the age of consent who looks sexually mature.

@freemo

That's a good explanation.

But something is missing: although it's true the vast majority of us have a sexual drive, arousal happens almost exclusively when there's a match with our own tendencies. The most basic example is: strict heterosexuals would rarely find “inspiration” in realistic depictions of gay sex, and vice versa. Similarly, is a “normal” person enticed to sex with children by watching paedophilia? I can't speak for others, but my intuition (and my own experience) is: [definitely not](goodreads.com/review/show/2948). Ditto about rape.

There might be a narrow slice of people with latent or ambiguous tendencies who might get something out of it, but I doubt it's more than that.

In contrast, we've been hearing for decades that dramatised violence (eg, games, film) does alter the behaviour of consumers, and yet murder and violence are ubiquitous in our cultural products, and we don't seem to give that a second thought.

@art4857@101010.pl

I'm glad that you found something in it!

Discussion of violence 

Honest question:

Why are works of (books, comic, animation, film) depicting or more offensive to more people and cause more calls to boycott or censorship than fiction depicting extreme or , when killing someone is universally regarded as worse than raping someone (morally worse) and criminal systems everywhere punish murderers more harshly than rapists (legally worse)?

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@admitsWrongIfProven

Nothing in particular today, but I get those answers surprisingly often when I discuss animal welfare, democratic reform, existential risks, wealth inequality, etc.

“$ISSUE is now much better than ever before, much progress has been made” is one of those non-arguments I don't accept when discussing improvements to $ISSUE

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@chuso

Bueno, si han hecho las cosas bien, esos «más de 2.100 estudiantes» serán precisamente hijos de «ricos» y de «grandes propietarios de viviendas», ¿no?

La «gratuidad universal de los comedores escolares» es una medida regresiva, porque da exactamente la misma ayuda al más pobre que al más rico. Es difícil justificar que los alumnos con más recursos (esos hijos de ricos) coman gratis con los impuestos de todos, ¿no?

Digo esto sin conocer los detalles de la implementación de estas medidas; no digo que se haya hecho bien, porque seguramente no haya sido así.

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