Honestly, I'm not sure anymore which one is good and which one is evil between Google and Microsoft.
I'm not that naive to think a corporation will act in a way other than to gain profit. But there are a lot of ways to gain profit and to build trust with the customer.
And I'm really not sure I can trust Google anymore and starting to build a real trust for Microsoft.
And the latter is a much more surprising fact than the former I must say.

#google #microsoft #trust #good #evil

@lig Corporations are not your friend, how hard is this to understand

@Matter I'm not making friends here. I'm hoping that some of those understand that building a user's trust is crucial for their success.
And it interesting to feel how my trust changes.

@zleap @lig @Matter I just came across this and I think it is an interesting point. Do people still trust corporations? Most people I know don't "trust" corporations but have a more "I don't care" attitude or have zero trust. My personal mantra, if I cannot find an alternative way, is to look for the lesser of two (or more) evils.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter

I guess using debian non-free is the lesser of the two evils when one needs to have working wifi hardware on a portable device

@zleap @lig @Matter
I dipped my toes in Debian's firmware folders a while back and I didn't brave venturing back without a decipher guide.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter We need to make all this more accessible to people, and easier to just help without having to be a super geek.

@zleap @lig @Matter

I agree that is true but I think convenience is the more crucial worth. I think an OS that automatically can retrieve the right firmware will be better received than one that provides a list of device model numbers and their corresponding firmware file.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter yeah

Debian is about being a free (as in freedom) os and not having all the closed source stuff, (which then breaks essential stuff like some networking)

not sure if isenkram-cli works apparently that will detect and install firmware.

@zleap @lig @Matter

Convenience doesn't necessarily mean closed. Just giving the user the option to select an alternative is enough to be open, but providing a default option that just works will make it more accessible.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter Indeed, on the dev list I have asked if the non free iso and the testing release can be easier to find too, help the rest of us to test / spread debian for example.

Once they have a working system we can then work on why free is better than non free and we hopefully have another person to campaign with us.

@zleap @lig @Matter

That will be exciting. Debian is a great OS and has great potential once it becomes more accessible. I think stability is crucial and Debian provides that.

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@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter Indeed, but there are currently 100's of packages that need a maintainer, we need to make it easier for people to get involved.

debian.org/devel/join/

looks rather scary to me, when I just want to be able to discuss / report issues to see if others are having the same problem.

@zleap @lig @Matter

Why does it look scary to you, if you don't mind me asking? Mind you I haven't contributed but I am looking forward to attempting after my current contract ends and so am curious. As I see it, I will look into it and try to help. If I get in the way, I will move away and go into other things. Nothing to loose, everything to gain kind of situation from my perspective.

@DrunkShawarma @lig @Matter

If I put a non dev / geek hat on then it looks rather a long process.

@zleap

Sure, it will be long at the start... I hope it gets easier after some time and experience. 😅​

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