This is big. No #embargoes. No #APCs.
"The #EU is ready to agree that immediate #OpenAccess to papers reporting publicly funded research should become the norm, w/o authors having to pay fees & that the bloc should support #nonprofit scholarly publishing models.
In a move that could send shockwaves through commercial scholarly #publishing, the positions are due to be adopted by the Council of the EU member state governments later this month."
https://www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-europe-infrastructure-2023-5-eu-ready-to-back-immediate-open-access-without-author-fees/
Update. The #EuropeanCouncil just adopted the #OpenScience proposal anticipated earlier this month. No #embargoes. No #APCs. #OpenLicenses. #Nonprofit publishing. #Open #infrastructure.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/05/23/council-calls-for-transparent-equitable-and-open-access-to-scholarly-publications/
@petersuber @mjskay if you have Open Access and also no APCs, who is paying the costs associated with publishing?
What is meant by publishing? If I wrote a paperI can upload to arXiv for free I think, I am not in academia so don't fully understand the processes.
I can write any document and make this available on my website for free anyway.
Maybe some publishing models belong in the 20th Century (and before) we have the internet and a new way of doing things and sharing information, but yes those doing the research / writing the results HAVE to be properly compensated.
@johnvidler @zleap @petersuber @mjskay I was mostly referring to the editing and curation functions and the infrastructure surrounding that, though I was today years old when I learned that peer reviewers generally aren’t paid, so… 🤷🏻♂️
It’s possible to just put one’s work on the internet yourself for almost no cost (to anyone), yet academic journals are still a thing, so people see some sort of value in that process… a process that has costs above and beyond just the electronic distribution.
@johnvidler @david @petersuber @mjskay
Yes, we need a new way of doing things that still retains the advantages of the tried and tested ways that do work.
+1 to journals being useful, also they become a good archive for research and progress can be tracked over time.
@zleap @david @petersuber @mjskay self hosting is certainly a way, but in that case you're accepting the "publishing" costs - ie. Those of having a website in the first place.
In the case of a journal the same ongoing costs would be present too - server space/time; even if it was 100% automated, it would still need to be running the software somewhere.
To be clear, I'm not defending the "old model", but I'd like a new one that doesn't vanish when websites stop being paid for by individuals 😁