This is big. No #embargoes. No #APCs.

"The #EU is ready to agree that immediate #OpenAccess to papers reporting publicly funded research should become the norm, w/o authors having to pay fees & that the bloc should support #nonprofit scholarly publishing models.

In a move that could send shockwaves through commercial scholarly #publishing, the positions are due to be adopted by the Council of the EU member state governments later this month."
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#Europe #RightsRetention

@petersuber @mjskay if you have Open Access and also no APCs, who is paying the costs associated with publishing?

@david @petersuber @mjskay

What is meant by publishing? If I wrote a paperI can upload to arXiv for free I think, I am not in academia so don't fully understand the processes.

I can write any document and make this available on my website for free anyway.

Maybe some publishing models belong in the 20th Century (and before) we have the internet and a new way of doing things and sharing information, but yes those doing the research / writing the results HAVE to be properly compensated.

@zleap @david @petersuber @mjskay self hosting is certainly a way, but in that case you're accepting the "publishing" costs - ie. Those of having a website in the first place.

In the case of a journal the same ongoing costs would be present too - server space/time; even if it was 100% automated, it would still need to be running the software somewhere.

To be clear, I'm not defending the "old model", but I'd like a new one that doesn't vanish when websites stop being paid for by individuals 😁

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@johnvidler @david @petersuber @mjskay

Yes, we need a new way of doing things that still retains the advantages of the tried and tested ways that do work.

+1 to journals being useful, also they become a good archive for research and progress can be tracked over time.

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