Paul Sutton @zleap@social.cleverlibre.org

@freemo @icedquinn

Sorry I was just trying to say we can't keep blaming the internet but how people are raised. I don't know much about the prosecution of journalists, I know about the Asian sex gang thing as that was in the news.

@freemo @icedquinn

Not sure but in Rochdale the local authority was so scared of being branded racist they didn't step in with regard to Asian gangs grooming and raping young girls.

@icedquinn @freemo

You cannot keep blaming the internet for this, you blame the way these people are raised surely. We need strong and better role models too.

@freemo Yeah, up to now drinks have been spiked, so people became more aware, you can get covers for glasses for example, there is cctv, people are perhaps more aware / observant.

this just takes it to another level now.

Problem is the UK is WEAK and PATHETIC when it comes to handing out sentences, so people are doing this with impunity, low chance of getting caught, lower chances of getting convicted and if caught and convicted you end up with a low prison term.

There is something seriously wrong in the UK

I am not sure what is going on here, but how some people got to think that this is ACCEPTABLE is really beyond me.

Spiked by INJECTION: Women 'needled with date rape drugs' in nightclubs in Edinburgh and Liverpool leaving them facing HIV checks as police arrest man in Nottingham after three attacks there in two weeks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10107543/Women-needled-date-rape-drugs-nightclubs-police-arrest-man-Nottingham.html

@info_activism So friends with a paedophile, an engineer arrested for possession of child porn and now a sex pest.

What will it take for Gates to be cancelled or are the cancel mob just selective about who they cancel.?

@Hyolobrika @icedquinn @newsbot

Agreed, the thing is our MPs have had enough of the abuse, hence the online harms /. safety bill.

What my suggestion was, on the fedi we need our own ID system, so we are SEEN to be taking action.

Problem is Facebook (for example) and fedi are both social media, but the way fedi work at the server level is vastly different, we understand how federation works but not everyone who makes the decisions does. Or they may have a mis understanding (for what ever reason)

So any laws will be targeted at social media.

I am sure as a fedi we can figure out a way that, one some servers you have to prove who you are, could be handy., I used this example on the forum a college / university sets up a student group, you have to prove you are a student of that uni to join., to do that you upload your student ID or show it to someone so only students from that institution can join.

That means the students CAN communicate but it also means if any students abuse others (even if they think their actions are harmless), the university can act if a complaint is made.

My argument for the fedi is that should perhaps be an optional feature,

We on the fedi have to agree to terms and conditions on instances or if we don't like it, set up our own and of course take responsibility for what happens.

@Hyolobrika @icedquinn @newsbot

We just need to ensure our freedoms are protected but those who seek to abuse / harm others are not allowed to do so.

Unless you are ok with people being in the case of the MP stabbed 17 times.

Not just MPs but doctors, nurses, ambulance staff, shop staff are all facing abuse, as re journalists. for just doing their job in very difficult circumstances.

Hence the conversations on social hub trying to provide evidence to law makers to cover all angles and side on this.