Louis Ingenthron @LouisIngenthron@social.cleverlibre.org

@Av8rdan Gotcha, that makes sense. I'm a member of AOPA, and I'm gonna have to look into EAA.

Just wanted to make sure you didn't drop your membership because of something bad they did that I didn't know about (kind of like how so many gun owners hate the NRA, despite that organization nominally representing them).

@Av8rdan For someone newer to the field like me, are there specific reasons you're not a member of others that you'd care to share?

@baldur At least for code completion, that's simply not true. There's an old adage in software engineering: Novice programmers take code from StackOverflow. Experienced programmers take the *right* code from StackOverflow.

@vga256 Having been through that process myself, no, but I'd read a site with post-mortems from indie studios who have released games all day long.

@AndyKotlarz @wdlindsy Do you typically have an audience when conversing with your landlord? More importantly, you only convince an audience if you win the debate; the potential for backfire can't be discounted.

However, in this example, the audience are the people on Yelp. Hence why I can be much more effective by writing reviews than by confronting the nazi landlord directly.

Navalny is fighting violent fascists with the power of the state at their disposal. That's a very different situation to opposing peaceful citizens who happen to be hatemongers. In the latter case, disassociation, shame, and shunning are proportionate responses.

@AndyKotlarz @wdlindsy In my experience, there's not much point reasoning with people who are pro-genocide, and in some cases, attempting to do so can be actively dangerous.

Shunning and deplatforming tend to have a much better risk:reward ratio.

Also, if the owner is a Nazi, then the property might as well have that "Nazis welcome" sign. If Nazis want to associate with other Nazis, that's their right.

@AndyKotlarz @wdlindsy Probably not, unless asked. But after moving out, I would post it on Yelp and such so others can make an informed decision.

@AndyKotlarz @wdlindsy I mean, I probably wouldn't break my lease and pay penalties, but I also wouldn't renew it either. Ultimately, yes, I'd have a problem with a Nazi profiting from me in that manner.

@AndyKotlarz @wdlindsy No, the owners of Substack have chosen to associate with Nazis, by choosing to continue to do business with them.

So, that leaves you with a value judgement to make. Do you want to continue participating in and supporting a platform that supports Nazis?

If a Nazi moves into a house in your neighborhood, there is no implicit support involved by coexisting with them.

But when you choose to go to a business that profits from them spreading their hate, now you're an active participant in a system that legitimizes them.

@freemo No, it was definitely remarkable, if only for the big black monolith's presence.

@AndyKotlarz @wdlindsy Drinking water and breathing air are not choices; they are necessities.

Associating with Nazis is a choice.

@jaythurbershow @pluralistic Think of the poor multi-billion-dollar corporations, though, and how they'll go broke if they don't charge you more for a service that is getting objectively worse over time.

@pepita @carnage4life You mean exactly like humans have been doing around office water coolers for centuries?

@carnage4life Gotcha. I haven't felt the need to pay extra for 4.

Wouldn't it still be limited to accessing the preview parts of articles that non-subscribers see, though?