Louis Ingenthron @LouisIngenthron@social.cleverlibre.org

@freemo @jenny_wu @realcaseyrollins @robryk Then PACs would become the parties. <shiver>

@freemo Also, the saying is "Possession is 9/10ths of the law", lol

@freemo @jenny_wu @realcaseyrollins @robryk I mean, maybe you could charge them with fraud? But I doubt there's a criminal law specifically for that.

@freemo @realcaseyrollins @jenny_wu @robryk Even then, I doubt it. Now, if the lawyer was there at the robbery holding a gun with their client... 😀

@freemo @realcaseyrollins @jenny_wu @robryk That's not illegal, though; just a basis for appeal.

Dealing with incompetency in lawyer circles is generally left to the bar associations, from what I understand.

@realcaseyrollins @jenny_wu @freemo @robryk At best, you can appeal a judgement on the basis of incompetent counsel after it's been rendered, but from what I've heard, that's a *very* uphill battle.

@jenny_wu @realcaseyrollins @freemo @robryk He chose his lawyers. He can fire them at any time if he's not happy with their service.

@jenny_wu @realcaseyrollins @freemo @robryk No, that's also not the job of lawyer. Their job is to inform him. If he then makes the decision to act like a jackass, that's not the lawyers' fault at all. They're not social workers.

@realcaseyrollins @jenny_wu @freemo @robryk Bingo. "Burn in hell" is classic expressive speech and protected opinion, and that's before you add the context that it was posted on social media by a known blowhard.

@freemo There is: dead

@jenny_wu @realcaseyrollins @freemo @robryk Of course they can, but restricting a defendant from voicing an opinion is generally an unreasonable restriction. Restricting him from intimidating witnesses, otoh, is reasonable.

@freemo Yeah, I think that's just bad journalism. Pretty sure the gag order was specifically overruled in regards to Smith (but upheld wrt his staff) since he's a public figure. The article referenced by the linked article goes into his behaviour in a bit more detail.

Also, Chutkan clearly isn't fucking around. She's not afraid to wait for him to step over the line before bringing down the hammer.

@loops @golgaloth I like both. I enjoy a 2-year-aged fine parmesan from Italy, but I also enjoy a grilled cheese with kraft singles.

There will always be a demand for hand-crafted artisanal products. That shouldn't stop us from making low-labor mass-produced versions available to those who can't afford the artisanal versions.

@realcaseyrollins @jenny_wu @freemo @robryk Vocally supporting violence is protected by the first amendment. Committing or inciting violence is not.

@freemo It would be a huge violation, but that's not what's gonna land him in jail. Courts have already determined that his criticism of Jack Smith, including rhetoric like "rot in hell" is political and covered under 1A. It would be wrong for him to end up in jail over that.

However, he's still attacking court clerks online, and intimidating witnesses. Either of those are perfectly valid reasons for a brief jail sentence for contempt of court.

@intransitivelie As someone who is meme-ignorant and often seeks additional context in alt-text, the extra explanation would often be helpful. But there is something to the fact that too much explanation ruins comic timing.