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@interfluidity @b0rk Hm yeah, working together is a great way to learn.

From what i saw, getting into a screen sharing meeting with others can work very well, it just has a much higher hurdle to overcome to start.

@interfluidity Reminds me of certain spam emails i had gotten. There must be some expectation of profit, since there was no reason to contact me otherwise... but no link i could click on, nothing in the whole email i could fall for in any way. Those are the most peculiar ones.

@Hyolobrika I gotta check myself here, maybe you can help:
My main goal right now would be listening and understanding, but i see that i am explaining my position a lot. Should that in any way make you feel like you can't explain yours, please let me know so i can reign myself in.

@Hyolobrika And i generally think such a thing is a fantasy. I would not trust someone who owns a billion or more - out of the simple consideration that amassing such wealth makes clear that any contact to the reality of normal people or empathy for them must have been lost.

A big problem, especially looking at the US, is position politics. Put people into camps, say the other camp is like this and that, without considering the actual topic of discussions. It gets worse here, too.
This is a prime example of position instead of content - group someone without ethics into the "enemy" camp.

As a result, people that believe this sound unconvincing to me.

Add to that that no actual medical studies are cited, and you got my point.

@Hyolobrika A reasonable point, but i still wonder if no news that are close to studies or cite experienced doctors made theirr way to you?

@Hyolobrika That is not a given. It is a tool, and as such it can be used in reasonable ways, in destructive ways and also misused doing harm even if there was no bad intention. Just as any other tool.
What always strikes me in discussion about tools is that the discussion about goals and what can be achieved without new tools is omitted - see "let problems fester".

@twizzay How good is your marlon brando impression?

@jeffcliff Just saw a toot calling out twitter users for generating revenue by their presence there.
That made me wonder: is that still true if you go there with ad block on? Since there are many possibilities to calculate views/page impressions/... i must say i have no basis to answer that. Do you have any hint?

I mean... i'm assuming you don't go there without protection. 90%+ of the internet is unusable without adblock, right?

@daswarkeinhuhn Zeit, sich nach *gähn* Emojis und Gifs umzusehen!

@daswarkeinhuhn Das ist das schlimmste: wenn es inhaltlich nicht erwähnenswert ist. Ich mein wenn die Leut trollen, dann sollen sie doch bitte wenigstens unterhaltsam sein! Das wäre so der Minimalinhalt, als Beitrag zur allgemeinen Erheiterung.

@Hyolobrika @dave Never worry what "ai" does, it is not intelligent. There's always a human behind it, using it for some purpose.

@daswarkeinhuhn Hihi, hat dir da jemand "bad faith" auf was geantwortet?

@Hyolobrika Well it is understandable to shy away from things that get pushed onto you.

Over the time since covid hit, i saw many articles that very closely reported on scientific studies and saw many doctors cited. The overwhelming majority of that was positive towards the vaccines (not saying they make you immune, but that they greatly enhance your chances of getting through an infection without lasting effects).

Some few negative voices, without fail in a tone that raised red flags with me.

So did you get any such things, directly on the vaccines? After all, that's the main point, are they good or not. The scepticism about any gouvernment issued info we share anyway.