🎓 Dr. Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@social.cleverlibre.org

@admitsWrongIfProven Oh thats easy, immediate, extreme, tax funded access to therapy and medication for everyone. Implement this immediately and you will find easily the biggest short term solution that also has thr benefit of working even better as a long term solution

@admitsWrongIfProven @bonifartius

No i dont ignore it.. relevant or not they may have been arguing poorly (thats debatable) but thats not bad faith. A bad faith argument is when you intentionally and blindly try to manipulate the conversation to win.

If i thought they **intentionally** hid or lied about who they are, sure. Bjt no they were happy to explain so not bad faith.

@admitsWrongIfProven @bonifartius @thatguyoverthere

No not listing thr thugs may be incomplete but not bad faith. Your response woukd be to ask (as you did) and thrn if thr other person is arguing in good faith thry will answer, which they also did.

@admitsWrongIfProven @bonifartius @thatguyoverthere

You wanted an example of why i thought yojr arguments are bad faith, you have another example.of it here

@admitsWrongIfProven @thatguyoverthere

Very much doubt that but happy to look at the numbers to try to find out.

@admitsWrongIfProven @thatguyoverthere

I lived for 30 out of my 40 years in the USA. Ive been threatened at knife point twice, ive never once been threatened with a gun in person.

@admitsWrongIfProven @thatguyoverthere

On that we agree, but not related to guns in anyway

@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven

Its worse than that... if the consequence of struggling with mental health and seeing a doctor has the consequence of revoking ones rights the end result is people who care about being able to buy a gun will go out of their way not to talk about or seek medical help for their mental illnesses.

The end result is increasing the number of people that get no help with their mental illness and a lot more of the wrong sort of people owning guns.

@admitsWrongIfProven

I also know people who are antigun consistently think progun arguments are shit. I dont think ive ever once heard a strongly antigun person go "You make an excellent progun argument but i still disagreee due to..." like never, not unless thry were on the fence on the issue... so at best your assessment is predictable, meanwhile the progun people will generally share and praise my argument with a similar level of bias. But hey they may be biased but at least they are the correct one of the two.

@admitsWrongIfProven Hard to judge. Most of the time whatever peoples ideas on guns happen to be will not be changed by my opinion. I also have noninterest in convincing people of anything, i enjoy talking about it, but its more about seeing how people can be led to beleive lies as long as thry are popular enough rather than a desire to convince people.

I do know over the years at least 20 or 30 people have changed their mind specifically because of the data ive shared and never once was i made aware of anyone who was on the fence and changed to an antigun stance because of something I shared. So im pretty happy with the outlook if that is to be the measure anyway.

@admitsWrongIfProven @thatguyoverthere

As ive stated, it is a valid loophole. Im fine with addressing.

That said as long as attacks on gun rights are underway id be hesitant to fix this issue when the first amendment is already so grossly abused. If thr left werent calling for further constitutional violations id probably be louder about fixing this loophole. As it stands it might be one of very few ways people will have quick access to guns if in need.

@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven

Yea but in private sales you dont have to transfer ownership at the point of sale. Sometimes you dont have to record it at all

@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven

Public gu sales require a paper trail be kept. This is a bigger issue for me than just the background check

@admitsWrongIfProven Agreed, good quality studies on this topic is much needed. Its a shame im stuck needing to try to do it myself indeed