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“I have read and agree to the Terms and Conditions”...

= The biggest lie* on the web

*Lie
= by-pass
= work around needing real understanding
= easy / quick consent = bigger error later down the line
= not needing understanding only checkbox

"YouTube"...
Wait.... You.. Tube...
For videos and wait... you are the tube?
you mean... They Are Watching Us
like we are their TV or even CCTV?
Naaaaa
We're their television?
We are the product.... again?
Oh man - I never really saw it exactly this way...
Not that stuff again about "You are the product" and "Camera Panopticon"
ala
Aral Balkan. @pluralistic
et al
🎥 📉

You are forced to get money or risk yourself starving / being homeless, at least that is the template it seems.

So participating in the exist traps for others (and yourself) to get you money sesms warranted else you start to endanger your own health... but then you realise actually with money it's also not so good either and just an aesthetic almost... (I assume we are all a but 'comfortable' here and can type about it...) but at the same time we're not happy / unhappy with the status quo AND not really being able to contribute,,, other than in money again which mostly makes things worse / is not doing the Freedom part (Freeing Planet from people being valued almost only by numbers and how much GDP it makes for any given Empire)

Giving more personal meaning and actually living (not being so blocked from our own wishes) I guess that's what we're all searching for...

Seems like efficiency means (mostly):

- machines replacing people

So if I am not far wrong in connecting machine with efficiency and more machines = less people needed sometime after installation or immediately, then I just don't know how people are to survive / do jobs they like. And continue doing them... just growth is like a snkae shedding skin and getting left behind.

Seems like this way is doomed if we rely on 'job' and just not workable for people to survive unless there are enough supermarket and restaurants to give people enough dishes to wash
[oops dish washer]

#Question. How to manage interacting with 100's of fans and users that you appreciate / genuinely want to reply to?

It's long been a question, once you make it to the top, busi-ness seems to block out time for it... but even with time and enough resources how would you manage that?

How to make money from Free Software ?

Sometime languages are just enough to convey, though we can get better at it...

Assuming basic language and counting is enough without do the human homework is root to many problems, like consent, permission, understanding, sympathising etc..

Not expecting it all in one moment always helps making space and time for these things (not just work work work or cold counting).

It helps by your own measurements measure things but also understand how others see things and measure them... e.g 100 litres can see a lot for one person while very little for others.

Regardless of wrong or right, 1 or 0 people have their own gauge and reality which I guess we are trying to balance and harmonise*

(harmonise is slightly different as it considers the nature of the person and then also with others balancing it to work well / have a nice flow / tempo / speed / pleasant co-existence)

"Long live Freenode!" [IRC Take-over, Moving services to OFTC]

https://n0toose.net/posts/long-live-freenode/

"All kingdoms must fall someday. Even the virtual ones."

#IRC Alternatives to #Freenode:

#Libera (New by old Freenode staff)
https://libera.chat/

#OFTC (2 decades old)
https://oftc.net/

@marathon0 Kinda symbolic of where all our money has always been going all this time
< BOOM >
(and in between wars)...

@barefootstache @opensourceseeds
Oh yeah technologically we have it 100% (or more than enough for everyone to eat). But What renders Tech near-useless is the money mentality and other a zillion 'calculations' in between which put things dangerously close to the edge (deliberately) and not towards helping people, even use Tech against others leveraged against their very won survival... (isn't that an original thought!).

So while people often think of Tech as neutral or without people behind them pulling and pushing, also who originally funded it all and regulates it also makes Tech arguably lost if it's not towards something more than money.

Different ways to the mountain.
For me it's good luck to everyone while right now thinking Gib's and Tib's of data are increasingly losing their worth if you are not sharing AND making human contact part of the eco system (i.e. data stores and more copies of the same is waste or just less ideal while the main point is HUMAN contact is less in the process which is the clever-hard part).
Why I moan about the matrix is because people with clipboards and counting is has lost it's own meaning in the process of and valuation of humans. So for HUMANS <---- (caps = emphasis) going away from science only ways IS the way somewhat or just not playing with it too much... but like perhaps much of history it's a lot of all or nothing where from not fault of your own or the sciences, you just get too deep in this construct and even a perfect win in this area = LEAVING A LOT OF HUMANITY OUT... which is why I think it's the preferred choice in any kind of authoritarian discrimination precisely as it leaves out and discriminations pretty much the whole of civilisation (of course one doesn't have to be all or nothing but give people more ignorant hammers and make them dependent or only count in these ways and well guess what happens? Exactly what we get now... So again it doesn't win for humanity (we arguably go to the top or had more than enough science and just screw it up faster)

Ok this is not about emotional output... I'm seeing maybe 1 other conversation about this... and so would like people to sort of represent STEM a bit more here... and say why not *precisely* :LP because I think it's important for humanity not to keep digging so hard a pit going humanly NOWHERE OR MAKING THE SAME ALMOST NON-PERSPECTIVE OF HUMANITY WORSE.
Doesn't helps it's so fast and funded by those that want and there isn't exactly jobs in the other areas of humanity but still YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO CONSIDER THE ABOVE even in theory that you would starve because governments are not interested in solving those other things... even making / oppre$$ing even more with science tech....

There are many cultures that they will not discuss their weakness... and while that actually go, it needs to be more chosen as when it's never said that you're ill or what your principles are (which avoids debate and focus and keeps power) and children didn't know for years... that is terrible.
I can say people can have 'over-feelings' or feel things are too negative but scary is people have this kind of pride or false misconception of what is good that actually doesn't move into the now and tries to keep what was back then bad (authoritarian patriarchy which I can even enjoy as a good management skill or something and let people run it) but to not have development or silent iron fist stuff amongst parents (and mum not saying anything) seems FAAAKTUP.

Restricting it to short notions, not helping humans expand their emotions and feeling is an ignorance and often aggression but cutting out what they don't want and what humans need (expression).
That seems to serve why we are in protest mode or can't get out of what we don't have control or input over.
Without blaming people, the short text, perhaps scientifically makes sense but humanly and generally doesn't... because it expect someone to be a PRO without training from a system (the system funds and trains well the other stuff it wants).

Our ability somewhat is stifled and perhaps people / scientific people don't see the problem.

A 2nd point is closely related, which I'll label loosely ' Scientific / Numerically Measured Objectification / Categorisation of people etc ' (do help me name it better)... all of which are like looking through numerical glasses or a kind of filtered separation / disconnect on people since you are dealing in what YOU or sciences think can be measured (feelings / emotions / a persons ever-changing direction which needs constant asking indirectly and directly... serious and unserious... so this isn't bashing scientific approach or the labels mentions above (again do give me more ammunition with me using it for hate but categorising people and putting them in boxes for matrices they think will work (and do but only towards ignoring things and more about certain 'efficiency' and not the 'free time' anologue happiness enjoy life stuff... it implies every second and every moment in ITS way not the individual humans.
Will cut myself short here- but I'd also like to be stopped if there are points where unique humans and this living rather than measuring is totally wrong (I can switch if I get the 'ah point' which maths does but with humans DOESN'T

Who is making the numbers is a massive point too and implies bias in everything other than the very very basic counting (as you can see in accounting, exploited to this day and mislabelled with people having no power over that)

Thanks for you attention.