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When talking about solutions - if it's more about money or fear then you know it's not really much change or going to feed the wrong things.

I tried to speak to religious people and they always end up saying "But you need money" which has it's truth but put the designed problem first without trying to really solve it. So dealing with reality is one thing but feeding it is another if you don't have sight past the might $ (or whatever dominant currency rules you). If you're not looking past that "money rules" or "money put food on my table" then you know the person's religion is more money or just never risking more towards their God (or perhaps it's one and the same that Man and Money has lead them to God or as God itself etc etc ... could be not trying to claim all reasons / exits).

I want to be sensitive to religious people but bless them, often waaaaay too defensive / submissive / sheepish while everything around gets prostituted / under money (including churches in the end).

Bring back Jesus with the whip I say!

redrafted so comments were going to be deleted and copied and pasted below:

@gabriel said:
" The more you work within the system the more you need money.
The more you work outside of it the less you need it. "
(can revise again anytime without comment too but might be best stuck here as I might revise again!)

I don't like people expecting others to 'get the message' from not saying things at all or expect you to be a might reader by INFERRING things and emphasising one thing or another... I like for people to say no I have prejudices against you and don't like you... and even explain because xyz!.... but that I think is why they don't and that is weak... and unconstructive and many things that anyway in the end they might end up saying but with even more emotion...
My tip- say it earlier, like drawing a trajectory if you check it earlier then you're not so off or going into another tangent.
ADD PICTURE OF CHECKING TANGENTIAL LINE LATER!

Job is for taking your energy and
paying your taxes for profit to Government, while it does bad work (all around the world it's the same)

Government 'giving' jobs for getting tax essentially and through companies as it's sub-contractors / subsidiaries / members it's agani in order to get even more % back as tax or rent or whatever it is to the geographic landlords and all those under it paying for the pleasure of what could be free if they weren't so insistent in making people pay so hard and getting their respect in that way.

It's not only money, it's not only technical. It's people not making time and space for talking properly (not just in passing etc).
Instead doing the back-talking or pretending to face with others or more public stuff that only feeds others not the individuals. Peopel need to take proper care of whatever the feelings are.

It takes courage to make space (arrange a time) and talk. People feel trapped and the adrenalin... but that is actually what is needed more than long way around with random people.

How do you give up your territory without giving up your territory?

(How do share your territory without giving up your territory entirely?)

It's much clearer when living or dying is in front of you directly at hands of your oppressor(s)... the middle way through middle-people is a harder barrier to see as those that stand oppress stand behind middle-people or put them in front while we argue it out amongst ourselves and they don't have to answer to almost anything as they pay others to form that buffer around them and even pay others who need it to stay alive... even at moral cost.
This loop needs some kind of reset / way out.
It's not enough to say "it's my job" when jobs are set to oppress also like a domino pushed from the top (including passive aggressive job or financially cheating others in an already cheating system cheating people higher as it goes down the hierarchy/payment pyramid like some kind of gangster protection program that doesn't protect much!
We have to get out of that!

Games suck people in to shooting things for the most part. If solving the human condition was mutually shared (total co-opt rather than combat) then maybe we could replace the same satisfaction of eliminating 'people' on screen with eliminating of misunderstanding and playing well in conversation together. Converting problem questions into positive thoughts (even without answers just the feeling of good combat) and modularly merging components like it was one big 'project' I think is the eventual way...
Even in theory, the talking about it before really solving it is actually the way of solving it.... because people often skip this part and think solutions happen without thinking / talking about it and thus perpetuates never seeks to come out of errors.

In arguments I noticed a bad loop / split in the road (innocently).

When talking about solving something one way goes to solving something overall and the other just keep the current bad thing or 'normal' going.

There is a fork in the road or bad loop where you (2 or more people) are talking about something and one route seeks to come completely out of that overall loop and the other way is already feeding and compounding the problem.

So throw problem in the way of people and they might not see it's the thrower are the problem, not just what is in front of them day to day. This can be something not obvious even helping people while it's not really helping them (it's a fascia or another way of flanking people)

Will write more later, but the common end phrase which is my proof in the pattern is typically someone who agrees with you in almost anything, comes to you complaining but then says
"but you've got to eat"
(which is true) but is never looking to accept need for solving that and almost never looking to ever solve the overall problem probably because the banks 'feed them' (debt)

I respect that banks are hard to solve but being obviously is such cheating bad games require a certain sense of 'it was never straight' type of acceptance and yes 'life is pointless like that'.
Being crushed under money and asked to pay for greed is still not the way which I think many people can't reach if they are not mentally able to imagine it... even when in conversation they accept the sub-points and believe somewhat it shouldn't be like that...

People are forgiven to think solutions can happen without thinking / talking about it.
And then when solutions do come around they might expect those solution to be customisable for them. Not always! Sometimes yo have to keep doing it yourself and remeasuring feasibility with what *you* can do, not just waiting on others or on perfection.

This 'waiting for the solution' and not starting is the main point or worst scenario. :D

Make it Yourself and Re-Make it constantly even if it's not perfect and see what you can do regularly with this kind of DIY / shitty-does-it approach!

(Don't leave the idea completely abandoned / accept imperfection as the road to perfection and keeping ideas & dreams ALIVE / Work In Progress!)

Good things are good BUT the good method (on the way) is even more important than the perfect output or product at the end. Because that is what will be most repeated / incremented.

For example it's no good having perfect products when they are at the cost of our daily life to make them and taking planetary privilege away from us.
Humans arguably need the way and method to have the good ways (more acceptable ways) more important than the final material (unless you measure the happiness of people and score along the way and use that in the final decision-making analysis.

@freemo Even chilling has it's payback :)

Direct Sun = x2 +compounding after effects :) Effects needs to be provisioned for and calculated / expected depending on how much you can take :)

Music encourages you to keep working...
All you have to do is dance while working !