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@conatus I'm less worried about Trump's library and More saddened by the fact that we just elected the first Segregationist in my living history as president. Never have I been so ashamed to be an american than I am right now :(
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@freemo @icedquinn @conatus eh we’ll see
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Sure, if he has actual evidence I welcome him to present it. So far even if there is fraud he hasnt produced a single bit of evidence and, well, he isnt a man who tends to be very good at accomplishing what he says he will so I dont have high hopes until I see some.
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@moth @freemo @conatus @icedquinn Wait hol up that raysis man said “there is no room for prejudice” in his first day in office???
HOLD THE PRESSES
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@moth @conatus @freemo @icedquinn He has presented some evidence but to my knowledge it hasn’t been super specific. His lawyers and such have more of the deets than he does
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@moth @conatus @freemo @icedquinn Hey it was Freemo who said not a bit, not me.
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To be clear I was referring to evidence that there had been some orchestrated effort by officials to commit voter fraud. The case of individuals committing fraud on their own, without cooperation from officials, and at the risk of arrest is relevant, but not what I was referring to when I stated it..
The legal arguments would be far more complicated if we talk about random extremely small scale individuals committing fraud considering they would include both fraud in favor of democrats and fraud in favor of republicans. So while this is something that could be shown at very small scales (or maybe larger if there is evidence to show it, who knows) that's going to be a tough case to argue.
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Are you suggesting how news calls a state after the state closes polling somehow dictates who wins? Even if they intentionally miss called states in bidens favor, how does that change the actual number of votes counted?
I have absolutely no doubt the News is extremely biased and is likely to do a poor job both predicting and calling the elections as a result. While we should of course denounce the news for doing so and refuse to give them our service how do you feel this equates to election fraud?
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@freemo @conatus @icedquinn @moth Pay attention. The #MSM can force the populace to believe that whoever they want is president, so long as they act in concert.
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Except they dont act in concert.. A bunch of news is biased left, a bunch of news is biased right. So you wont get them acting in concert at all, and we never do. Half of them agree on one thing, and the other half agree on the opposite thing.
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did the other outlets convince them, or did the numbers convince them (which may have been the incorrect numbers if fraud exists mind you). the official numbers streaming in did, in fact, make biden look like the winner.
Are you actually suggesting the left leaning knews all knew the "real" numbers and knew Biden didnt win, but engaged in fraud just to mislead others, meanwhile fox had some fake numbers and they were fooled because the other news outlets cooperated?
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Well yes thats true.. But PA was called for trump on all the liberal leaning networks I watched and didnt flip to biden until days after. I simultanious watched them call states live across 5 networks this year.
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I think RCP's call to freeze at last known good and post that things were complicated was the best call that was made so far in retrospect.