@icedquinn

No, but he will be.

@realcaseyrollins @conatus

@freemo @icedquinn @conatus eh we’ll see

@realcaseyrollins

Sure, if he has actual evidence I welcome him to present it. So far even if there is fraud he hasnt produced a single bit of evidence and, well, he isnt a man who tends to be very good at accomplishing what he says he will so I dont have high hopes until I see some.

@icedquinn @conatus

@moth @freemo @conatus @icedquinn Wait hol up that raysis man said “there is no room for prejudice” in his first day in office???

HOLD THE PRESSES

@moth @conatus @freemo @icedquinn He has presented some evidence but to my knowledge it hasn’t been super specific. His lawyers and such have more of the deets than he does

@moth @conatus @freemo @icedquinn Hey it was Freemo who said not a bit, not me.

@realcaseyrollins

To be clear I was referring to evidence that there had been some orchestrated effort by officials to commit voter fraud. The case of individuals committing fraud on their own, without cooperation from officials, and at the risk of arrest is relevant, but not what I was referring to when I stated it..

The legal arguments would be far more complicated if we talk about random extremely small scale individuals committing fraud considering they would include both fraud in favor of democrats and fraud in favor of republicans. So while this is something that could be shown at very small scales (or maybe larger if there is evidence to show it, who knows) that's going to be a tough case to argue.

@icedquinn @moth @conatus

@moth

Are you suggesting how news calls a state after the state closes polling somehow dictates who wins? Even if they intentionally miss called states in bidens favor, how does that change the actual number of votes counted?

I have absolutely no doubt the News is extremely biased and is likely to do a poor job both predicting and calling the elections as a result. While we should of course denounce the news for doing so and refuse to give them our service how do you feel this equates to election fraud?

@conatus @realcaseyrollins @icedquinn

@freemo @moth @conatus @icedquinn If #Trump wins the legal challenges enough to have more delegates but the #MSM refuses to say so, well…

@freemo @conatus @icedquinn @moth Pay attention. The #MSM can force the populace to believe that whoever they want is president, so long as they act in concert.

@realcaseyrollins

Except they dont act in concert.. A bunch of news is biased left, a bunch of news is biased right. So you wont get them acting in concert at all, and we never do. Half of them agree on one thing, and the other half agree on the opposite thing.

@icedquinn @moth @conatus

@moth @freemo @conatus @icedquinn Look at the news Freemo. See how easy it was to convince #FoxNews to declare #JoeBiden the likely winner? And of course smaller conservative outlets follow them so most just fell in line.

@realcaseyrollins

did the other outlets convince them, or did the numbers convince them (which may have been the incorrect numbers if fraud exists mind you). the official numbers streaming in did, in fact, make biden look like the winner.

Are you actually suggesting the left leaning knews all knew the "real" numbers and knew Biden didnt win, but engaged in fraud just to mislead others, meanwhile fox had some fake numbers and they were fooled because the other news outlets cooperated?

@icedquinn @moth @conatus

@moth

Fair, if that is true then I hope Trump is able to provide some evidence of collusion by someone in a position of power.

As I stated earlier regardless of the reality if all trump has are individuals commiting fraud on their own with no connection to the polticians or the party (other than being registered with it) then he is going to have a really hard time winning considering both democrats and republicans can and do commit fraud for their side individually.

However if he can show a news caster had some secret real numbers and published fake ones, or some coordination or intentional manipulation on the part of democrats to rig the election, then he will have a strong case I'd imagine.

Any suspicious behavior aside when it comes to hard evidence to win the sort of case he is making, I have yet to see it. The only real evidence (and no not just fishy behavior that isnt enough for court) has been a few random old ladies voting multiple times or something amounting to a few hundred votes...

Remember I am not asserting what **IS** (I never said if voted fraud is real or not), I am talking about what there is evidence for, evidence as in meets the standards of a court of law for submission... So far I havent heard of really any at all in this thread.

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