Louis Ingenthron @LouisIngenthron@social.cleverlibre.org

@baldur You're right, I should have said "security" rather than "privacy". But still, after Equifax leaked my information to the entire internet, everything else pales in comparison. At this point, we essentially have to operate with the assumption that *nobody* we do business with online has done their due diligence in regard to security.

@harriorrihar That's why I said "homemade".

But ignoring that for a second, in your example, you've just escaped from a shitty job that was so tedious and repetitive that a mindless robot could replace you. In a functional economy, that's a good thing. Move on to bigger and better jobs.

@baldur Agreed, but that's the status quo for every tech company. Users have made it abundantly clear that the prefer convenience over privacy, and the market has delivered that.

@baldur Interesting. Although, worth noting that neither of those examples had anything to do with their LLM tech... it was just bad normal server security practices.

@harriorrihar Do you miss the times when you were able to identify the difference between a mcdonalds cheeseburger and a gourmet homemade one?

If human artists really can't bring anything to the table that a machine can't, then they deserve to be replaced. But I don't think that'll be a problem.

@jenniferplusplus Like most tools, it's unreliable when *misused*, and due to hype, it's being misused a lot, like trying to hammer in a screw.

But when you apply it to the proper use cases, it's a fantastic tool.

@NeadReport That's certainly possible... Google is pretty good about having working permission toggles *somewhere* for privacy settings. But you also have the option of uninstalling the app completely and using a 3rd-party messaging app.

@NeadReport The article seems to imply that there will, in fact, be an opt-out.

@baldur Good point. Worth noting, though, that the article you posted said that Apple is specifically working on breaking it in the exact same way:

@craftycat Good luck with that. Like I said, I've been there before.

@craftycat I was responding to Baldur's reply about Apple's security.

@craftycat It's less a choice by users and more a choice by app vendors. I've been there. I tried really hard to make Windows Phone 8 work (it was a great platform), but the lack of app support is what eventually killed it. Fewer users means fewer apps means fewer users means bankrupt platform.

@baldur @craftycat According to the article you linked, Google's is also E2EE, and you can opt out of the AI assistant, so wouldn't they be a wash in that regard?
Plus, are you sure Siri doesn't have access to them already? That doesn't run locally, does it?

@craftycat @baldur Switch to what? iPhone, which tracks your location and sends it to Apple (and will probably have this exact same problem too within 6 months), or something else that no app makers support?